…it all worked out well for him, he won’t be filmed later off stage…

That is great Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS but with respect no one really cares what you "think" should have happened

Just as the EBU has no say or impact on the business decisions that you make for your organization

Eurovision should just be a bit of harmless fun, but it never is :laugh:

Swedish police give update on Netherlands Eurovision singer Joost Klein after he was questioned for ‘inappropriate behavior’ towards a female crew member.

“A man is suspected of unlawful threats. The crime is said to have been committed at Malmo Arena on Thursday evening.

The man is questioned by the police but not detained. The plaintiff is an employee at Eurovision.

The police have taken all essential investigative measures and questioned the suspect, plaintiff and witnesses. The investigation has been completed by the police.”

The singer has since been disqualified for his behavior and the Netherlands will no longer be a part of the Eurovision Final tonight.

Source: Daily Mail

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNUBvNJX...jpg&name=small

:laugh:

I mean who goes to an event watched by billions and gets prissy about being filmed especially after coming off stage when I expect you are in full make up etc...bizarre

He was running to the Green Room, maybe he had just wet himself or worse

They stole land that was not theirs and committed genocide and attempted to cleanse the are of Palestinians for decades, Isreal is not nor has it ever been a country

So he is just a twat basically?

I can genuinely say that I didn't really like his entry much to begin with.

That's not the Israeli singer's fault though.

The way that she has been treated has been disgraceful, the people that have treated her like dirt should honestly be ashamed of themselves.

I have no issue with people being anti-Israel in terms of not liking Netanyahu/the Government, but a singer competing on the Eurovision Song Contest should be treated with basic Human decency.

The fact that I am having to say such a basic thing is shameful.

I don't know if I would say that Israel is worse than Russia.

I mean Ukraine had done nothing to Russia, and were attacked.

Israel's Government is bad (I do agree with you on that,) but Russia are tyrants towards multiple of their neighbouring countries.

Loreen has confirmed she will not hand Isreal the trophy and a number of Spokespeople who were scheduled to give out their countries votes have now decided they won't take part

Israel exposing the bigots and antisemites

we love to see it

:clap1:

So these people are encouraging bullying of one of the contestants?

This sounds a lot like the end run of The X Factor.

Is it bullying? Isreal should not even been there and there has been confirmed situations of the Isreali delegation bullying and harassing other contestants

She’s an open supporter of their genocide, anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children deserve all the criticism and ridicule they receive

Go to bed Liam

This is about a song contest

Jesus wept

:umm2:

When did she do that?

Never I expect ....

I'm objecting to the treatment towards the singer.

If the Delegation is doing anything wrong then fair enough, but it doesn't appear to be bad enough to get the Police involved at least.

And I do agree with you that the Government of Israel is bad, just like Hamas are also bad, I think that just needs to be put out there, both groups are bad.

But I'll always say this, an individual shouldn't be being judged for what their country's Government is doing, and that's such a slippery slope to go down that so many people are looking for any excuse to justify being nasty towards a singer.

Do you believe that she'd be allowed to say otherwise?

And besides, even if she does support her country's actions, she will probably be emotionally thinking about October 7th for starters.

Plus a lot of people (and maybe she falls into this category,) are very patriotic towards their leaders, and don't want to believe the worst about them, there are a lot of people like that across the world, and they would support atrocities as well if it were their country committing the crime. But on many other topics they might be lovely people.

My point being that it doesn't necessarily make these people evil, and I certainly don't believe that justifies some people wanting to physically harm her.

I'm going to think that he has at least heard about it from a reputable source tbf.

NPO and AVROTROS file an official complaint against Joost's disqualification, and want to bring the EBU to court

I am interested to hear their side of the story tbh.

Weren't the police called.
What did they do or say.

If he's not charged for anything yet, why should he be disqualified.
Surely security could ensure no further incidents, whatever this incident really was.

Or is this more about him showing some negativity to Israel.

As Mock says, it will be interesting to see what comes from this.

However, if nothing really comes from it at all.
Then his disqualification is wrong.
I actually think it was anyhow.
In the absence of even police recommending same.

The organisers have made an almighty mess of Eurovision this year.
It was wrong to remove a Nation voted in by the public to the finals from the final itself just a few days later.

The Netherland's should have been able to perform.
After all the hard work to get there.

I agree. There was no need to disqualify them. A warning would have been enough.
I hope Netherlands sue and win.

Very charitable.

Good. I hope they win. There was no need to kick Netherlands out.

with tensions already high, the last thing the organisers needed was someone stirring up trouble. They were absolutely right to take the action they did

Exactly a warning would have been more appropriate.

Then any future incidents for more action.
Absolutely.

all thanks to Israel :idc:

us dutchies will have our revenge though


we will destroy the EBU through many lawsuits

https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/06/06/du...vision/281891/

Netherlands threatening with withdrawal from the 2025 contest, and keeps defending Joost

The whole thing was an absolute mess this year. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed it, but hey... I enjoy a mess :shrug:. It definitely had a very different feel to usual though.

and if Netherlands withdraw, participation fee will go up massively for other countries, so expect more withdrawals next year ;)


maybe only 20 competing countries or something :joker:

Anymore years like this last one, and it could end up being the end of Eurovision.

There was far too much negativity surrounding the Show, which is always the start of a Show on the decline.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/dzDV8...=200w.gif&ct=g

i wouldn't mind it, no longer about music anyway, since the younger generations have ruined it

I mean I doubt that Liam is wrong anyway, given how horrible some people were to her during a singing contest.

The Show just needs to fix three things, and I think that it'll be fine.

1. The people running Eurovision and the voters need to not make Politics the main aspect of the Show, it literally dominated this last series and it ruined the enjoyment of the competition for me, because everything ended up being about Israel. And obviously some of the voters and contestants that were trying to get her removed, and then throwing their toys out of the pram when it failed was absolutely pathetic imo.

There's nothing wrong with protesting against Israel by not voting for them/or supporting them, but trying to isolate a contestant because she happens to be from a country that's not popular due to stuff that Netanyahu has done, is not only unfair to her, but also incredibly cruel, especially when some of these people liked to act all self-righteous and moral, yet they can't even be civil about a girl in a singing contest.

2. I don't feel comfortable with winners happening that aren't even in the top four of the public vote, regardless of what I personally think of the song.

It's basically a waste of time people voting if someone who is in 5th Place in the public vote ends up being the winner.

It'd be like Tottenham being called the Premier League champions in this season just gone on the Football.

3. The zany costumes need to be dialled back a little bit, because nowadays the Show (and a lot of the audience tbf) do seem to think (and I'm going to be blunt when I say this) that the only way to be good is to dress like a freak.

For example the Latvia song didn't need the singer to dress like whatever the **** he was trying to look like, it was a normal ballad with a good vocalist singing the song, that's all it needed to stay as imo, but Eurovision couldn't resist, so they made him dress up like a weirdo.

There are other examples that I can think of in this series, but I get that it might be a touchy subject in some cases.

And just to clarify, no I am not on about Olly.

Latvia singer looked normal though?


he also wore that outfit in their national selection

Case Against Women Abuser Joost Klein been dropped
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gep5qzlxeo


wouldn't be surprised if arrogant turds of AVROTROS broadcaster have bribed swedish authorities :idc:




Withdraw for good pls, turd Netherlands :idc: