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Totally agree with the above

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11460069)

Its just a another raped girl I guess ....?

I think it's the General Election News
blocking so much

I want to know the ethnicities involved

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11460145)

I want to know the ethnicities involved

A good but so far unanswered question.

Interesting debate so far. Agree with SB's comments although it took me a long time to come round to that view. For most of my life I've viewed porn as essentially harmless and a choice that should not be judged or scrutinised. That's also how it's generally been presented in a lot of media too - it amazes me now that there was a whole Friends episode just based on them having porn on all day every day because they'd accidentally got the channel for free. But that was before access to porn became so widespread and all the issues (that are inherent in the industry) multiplied massively. The trouble is there's been no corresponding increase in awareness of the problems with porn and porn addiction

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11460211)

I should probably concede that part too I guess - I'm not outright judging anyone for watching porn, I will freely admit that I watched plenty of it through most of my younger life, from age 14 onwards. But once you see it for what it is you really can't unsee it. Bleak.

If adults want to watch porn that is entirely up to them, who hasn't watched it? my issue is that it is so freely available to kids and how it screws some to think that is the gold standard ...:skull:

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11460240)

It is up to them but it's neither a healthy choice for them or societally imo (to grow the industry). A bit like smoking. Adults are also susceptible to being screwed up by porn

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11460020)

i do think that some media gives some ideas they would not have thought of if they hadn't seen it.

I agree with you Kazanne that media can give these disturbed people a method into how to commit their crimes.

I feel where I'm going to diverge from SB's viewpoint, is that I do believe that these people were already mentally off, and were going to commit a heinous crime eventually anyway, it just would've been a different victim most likely being the biggest difference.
@Kazanne

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11460116)

The difference is that unlike the usual media blaming that goes on, such as with movies, TV and video games, this is not guesswork nor is it "blame culture" bluster.

The effect of pornograohy on male attitudes towards women and girls and the objectification of women and commoditisation of sex has been studied, extensively, and the negative effects have been shown to be huge and real. It's also been studied and extensively proven that the objectification of women and commoditisation of sex increases the risk of sexual assault and rape.

All I'm really seeing is people who don't like the facts because they want to continue to enjoy the porn.

And like I said before, if it's just that it's an acceptable trade-off for you, in order to to continue enjoying something that you enjoy then :shrug: that's up to you - slim is correct, few things in this world come at zero moral cost.

But pretending that porn doesn't contribute to rape culture, sexual assault and other sexual violence is purely and simply lying to yourself. You're imagining that the majority of rapes are carried out by creepy predators attacking strangers on darkened nights. That's not the case. The majority of sexual violence is perpetrated by friends, boyfriends, workmates, and other close associates. Sexual violence within relationships is through the roof. Porn consumption is a major contributing factor. It just undebatably is... The work has been done, the results are in.

Again though, these people that are getting so Porn addicted in the first place, why? There's already something wrong in their life if they're taking everything that they're seeing in Porn as gospel, and basically develop parasocial relationships with the Pornstars in certain cases.

And honestly for me I don't care about Porn enough to defend it as a die hard fan of the industry, I just don't believe the studies that you're on about, because after all some of these studies will try to tell you that TV Shows and Movies will encourage violent behaviour.

Depending on who conducts these studies, the answer will be tailored to the main demographic that's following the study, and basically get told what they want to hear.

Like I remember Zizu a few weeks ago put up a link showing studies about how violence in Video Games increases anger in men, yet I've read other studies that have said that Video Games don't do anything like that.

In my view, if anyone is watching rape Porn, and thinks "oh that's a cool idea" then there's something already seriously wrong with the individual to begin with.

Like controversially, if a guy is willing to hear Andrew Tate out, he is already in a dark place.

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11460159)

A good but so far unanswered question.

And it will conveniently remained unanswered because they are under 18.

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11460240)

I always find it shocking when news stories come out about adults getting arrested for showing Porn to children.:umm2:

You've got to be a messed up individual to deliberately show Porn to a child imo.