Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544317)

She is the Head Of Operations. She's in a position of authority. She confirmed 100 current and former party officials had been dispatched.

You're being rather obtuse Joey. How many times should I quote her?

I wouldn't be ACCUSING you of anything. Yet again...my thread title and OP were posed.as questions? Why can't you seem to get this?

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11544329)

So what'?

She still has her independent life and can do what she likes as long as it's legal.
Like the rest of us

Her work for LABOUR like with all other members, doesn't mean she cannot engage in personal and independent other activities.

Or have you something against this particular individual to still be insisting rather than her.
That it's Labour who sent these volunteers over.
The volunteers didn't go by their OWN choice.

You can quote her all you like.
That doesn't make your accusations against the Labour party anymore valid though in your thread title.

Why don't you ask.
Is it reasonable acceptable for Reform Leader to go to canvass for Trump in USA elections.
If you can't see the hypocrisy I hope others will.

Originally Posted by Viz (Post 11544332)

The word "officials" keeps being used by disingenuous actors.

The wording was actually "100 Labour Party staff (current and former)". Nothing about "officials" that is somehow regurgitated. (Staff being butchers, bakers, candlestick makers)

Goes to show what misinformation does I suppose.

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11544338)

What is the problem with people doing that in their own time?

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544339)

Regardless of whether they are officials or staff they are STILL representative of the Labour Party and as such it is totally inappropriate for them to doorknock for Kamala. That's what's being investigated. That's the whole point of the thread.

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544341)

Because they are doing it in the capacity of being Labour representatives of course? It is just not right to endorse one particular candidate.

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544353)

I'm off now. What this boils down to is misplaced indignation that the Labour Party are being maligned. Talk about shooting the messenger. It's not me who is investigating them is it?

They are scrambling to try and cover up by deleting Sofia Patel's post.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11544367)

You aren't the messenger.
You CHOSE from the messenger to be judge and jury and condemn a whole Party to what you in your opening post dictate as wrongdoing.

While choosing to dismiss others going to support the other side in the USA election.
Funny that.

That's not being a messenger, that's you taking a message and presenting it as fact.
In your thread title.

Any misplaced indignation is on your side more possibly.
My indignation is at your misleading thread title.
Certainly not misplaced indignation either.
Plus yes.
I'll condemn my Party when they're wrong and have done on other issues.
However I'll defend them against biased injustice at every turn.
Whether by publications, groups or individuals.

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544360)

Oh behave Joey! Tell it to the investigation team not me. Where there's smoke there's fire.

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11544338)

What is the problem with people doing that in their own time?

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11544419)

I wonder what would happen to their party membership if they went across to canvass for trump!

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544353)

They are scrambling to try and cover up by deleting Sofia Patel's post.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11544449)

That would be a scandal I think if Labour were to do what you're thinking that they'd do in that scenario.

Originally Posted by Viz (Post 11544452)

The "covering up" you speak of is on the front page of the BBC. :conf:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standar...d98e6.png.webp

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11544462)

It's like N Korea sending troops to Russia

Originally Posted by Viz (Post 11544467)

Is this a joke. If not then I want to say that they are not even remotely similar to what you've said here and it's misinformation

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11544470)

Both being sent to fight a battle they cant win...

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11544419)

I wonder what would happen to their party membership if they went across to canvass for trump!

Originally Posted by Viz (Post 11544471)

Okay so that tells me everything I need to know.

1. Putin rules Russia already
2. Trump is a presidential candidate and not the current president


What you are talking about is playground/late night pub politics from people who are uninformed

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11544527)

Have we found out if the free accommodation would be available for labour volunteers wanting to go out to canvass for trump?

Or indeed if their labour membership would still be intact on their return..

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11544514)

Crying about people who volunteered, as in, didn’t get paid, to campaign for Labour, voluntarily going to America in their own spare time, to volunteer as door knockers for another party or politician they actively support, is the biggest nothing burger, useful idiots are just playing into Trumps hands so that he can have something to blame or fight against when he loses, it’s sad.

Also, was the Farage question ever answered? He’s an actual elected official representing the uk and he spent time he should have spent doing his actual job, to go out and follow Trump around doing his bidding and getting his belly rubbed, there is a striking difference and only those who don’t want to see it, won’t see it.

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11544568)

Why? What he said doesn’t back you up :joker:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11544571)

Wouldn’t be so bad but she doesn’t seem to understand they volunteered :joker:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11543850)

As to all Parties it's been the case for ages.
Labour sent NO ONE to the States.
It's individuals who have chosen to go.

It's happened with members of the Cons too.
Not MPs or elected representatives.
Just the same here .

Nothing from ANY governnents immaterial of Party.

However what about Farage now an elected MP to parliament going over and helping his friend Trump get elected.

Or is he admired for that while other Party supporters or even members get vilified
Farage from the UK has gone to the USA for I understand all of the elections Trump has fought.

Personally I wouldn't go, who'd want to be in the ridiculous circus of the USA politics.
However whatever the reasons, I'd hope the Democrats win the USA election but I really feel Trump will win.

This thread however is insulting.
Neither Labour or the Cons in government or opposition have sent elected representatives to the USA at elections.
Contrast that with Farage and Reform.

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11543594)

Yep, although I will say, a lot of Trump fans love him because he’s deranged and horrifically racist

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11544593)

Labour DID send these people to the States. I don't get why people can't see this. 100 of them.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11544599)

Because they're hypocrites. Not just any kind of hypocrites, but dangerous, egotistical ones.