I wouldn't go so far as to call anyone stupid, there certainly are a lot of ignorant "city folk" involved in and commenting on this issue.

The alleged value of farming land doesn't truly represent how much money the farmers have or make, it's how much they'd make if they sold the land to developers.
They're not sitting on the money it would cost to pay the inheritance tax, they'd literally have to sell their land to pay it.

But some people don't see that, they just assume farmers are literal millionaires when they're working physically demanding and largely thankless jobs - to feed the country.

The politicians just don't seem to understand or care about food security.


This new tax will just kill family farms, and for what? A few extra pennies which will just be pissed up the wall like all the other tax money?

Better to focus on efficiency reforms - Whitehall and the likes are way too bloated, think about how much tax money could be saved by making cuts there.

While Parliament had their Final PMQ's
yesterday.
The Farmers were in Central London with another protest.


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...ec00c8e664.png

Make them pay the same inheritance tax as everyone else who qualifies. I've seen tractors blocking Ambulances today, so i wonder why this forum doesn't consider them to be on a level with JSO protestors?

Imagine defending the financial interests of wealthy land owners over your own abilty to breath clean air.

the serfdom and feudalism of the dark ages is alive and well in 2024.

5 years in prison for every farmer, blocking in traffic, eh lads? Lads?

Farming has been most hurt by Brexit in recent years, but yet they overwhelmingly supported that.

According to polling the numbers voting for Leave in the Brexit referendum was about the same as the general population.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...4301671930436X

Farmers can avoid inheritance tax by registering their business as a private company. What they want is to have their cake and eat it. They want to be seen as property owners to avoid the tax associated with running a company. They can't have their cake and eat it, no-one else does

Sign me up.

When farmers can't afford the inheritance tax they will be forced to part with land. Watch as that land is covered with solar panels and wind farms.

the government need land to build houses on, so it's win/win for them

Thanks for the info. I thought it was wildly different to this.

How are they wealthy land owners? Farmers aren't rich, and they'd have to sell that land to pay the inheritance tax.

Why are Labour targeting the people who want to feed the country, and keep it green?

I know farmers whose farms are worth millions but the farm makes around £50k annually. That's for a 365 day working year. It's a myth that they're all rolling in wealth like the Left would have us believe.

The land is only "worth" that amount if they were to sell it to developers, when all it's doing now is making food.

What a waste of space, eh.

Yeah... I mean, we could import all our food. Chlorinated chicken and fruit and veg smothered in dangerous pesticides that are banned in the UK... Yummy.

70% of the land in the UK is owned by farmers, who produce around 50% of our food.

I've just sat through 15 years of austerity, where the absolute poorest and the disabled in society have had their meagre existences made much worse, as the tory government revelled in taking from the poor to ensure none of these people would ever have to pay more.

The refusal to take money from the top for nearly 2 decades has left this country on it's absolute arse. No country has ever cut it's way to prosperity, and unfortunately, folks need to start ponying up.Living standards in the UK are now worse than the poorer EU countries we had a brexit to stop coming here.

They pay considerably less inheritance tax than general citizens and they are given a decade to pay off the bill. At some point, harsh taxation needs to start redressing the imbalance before the country really slides into a period of extreme right wing politics.

Labour is a centre right party, not the left.

i thought "the right" believed in free markets? if a business model is unsustainable, markets dictate that we should let them die,so innovators can come in and do it better. That''s how capitalism and free markets work.

Thing is the farming sector is quite deeply woven into the social fabric of a nation. Agriculture is pretty much the original human occupation and before the days of wide scale trade everywhere was totally dependent on their farmers to sustain their populations. Even now we do still grow a lot of our own food and our welfare standards are incredibly high. It's also one of the proper goods producing industries we have left while most of the economy has become services based. And many farmers only do it as a labour of love, they don't do it to make a fortune. It's one of the last true vocations left which people work their whole lives. Also an industry which isn't governed by a 9-5 and a work-life balance because there's basically no separation between the two.

All of which is a bit rambling but is basically to say - the farming sector is pretty unique and take it on at your peril.

To be clear, there are way more deserving folks to go after in this country when it comes to taxation, but the fact that both major parties (neither will reform tax their donors) have absolutely zero interest in it, means that money has to come from somewhere.

Rejoining would put £40b back into the economy, but again, neither this or the next PM will tackle that white elephant.

We're currently a failing nation, and revenues need to be increased.

i'd rather tax the uber-wealthy and corporations, but our grubby political system of proto-oligarchy, makes that an impossibility in the current climate.

Wow they sound pretty important, better tax them into selling that land, what?

Errr...what?

I've no sympathy for the Farmers at all on this one.
Sorry but I haven't.

They haven't cared one jot about others subject to paying this tax all the time they, the Farmers were exempted from it by the Thatcher government.
Now they're up in arms even though it's a reduced rate for them too.

I've no time for the Farmers at present at all.

Farming means owning land to farm. They're in a totally unique position. If people want to eat imported food at hiked up prices, Labour is going to make that not just a possibility, but a necessity.

What do you think they do with their land?

And generally produced to lower standards along with increased risks of pests and diseases etc.

Again,
in London with the Massive Tractors

the 3rd time there.


Labour has stated no changes
to there policy

Hope they get a grip and drop this ridiculous idea.

I wonder if the MSM will cover this
:think:

Yes
Farmers are not the enemies
of the public.


Labour has no change
for this mess.

Yesterdays Frontpage

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standar...b2526.jpg.webp

Today, they are
Marching on Foot.

Tractors not permitted

Just on SkyNewsHD Live

I don't know why tractors would not be permitted If they're road legal, road tax paid, how can they ban them? The police are very firm about these marches. Pity they aren't as firm about people carrying terrorist banners and swastikas.

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1933...941236615?s=46


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How does this relate to the farmers?

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