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Ammi 13-05-2025 05:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11645715)
Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.

…Joey…:hug:..I feel so much for your sorrow, for your disappointment, for your disillusionment….:hug:….as you say, you generally wait before acting or making any huge decisions of any path in life…?….atm it feels almost impossible to find a visionary in politics and the only way that those visionaries will be seen and heard and hope to make any difference at all…?…is if they stay with their dreams …you’ll do what you feel is best, I know…:hug:…

Oliver_W 13-05-2025 07:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11645715)
Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.
Sorry but reading this is like seeing someone realise the truth about Father Christmas when they're fourteen years old.

How has anything they've done so far helped the working classes, or vulnerable?

Were you clinging onto hope through their actions because you thought they might still support open(ish) borders?

James 13-05-2025 07:50 AM
A cynical interpretation is that they are playing 4D political chess moves - boosting the Reform agenda to weaken the Conservatives further, to make the next election Reform versus Labour.

They will hope that enough people won't want to see Reform be the biggest party and Labour will stay in government.

bots 13-05-2025 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11645773)
Sorry but reading this is like seeing someone realise the truth about Father Christmas when they're fourteen years old.

How has anything they've done so far helped the working classes, or vulnerable?

Were you clinging onto hope through their actions because you thought they might still support open(ish) borders?
labour hadn't been in power for over 10 years, so the agenda of the current labour leadership hasn't become clear until they regained power. They said all the things expected of them in opposition so it would be a surprise to many labour members what the government are now prepared to do.

I compare labour with reform to the way the tories handled ukip under cameron. The tories took back the ukip vote by promising a brexit referendum. What labour are doing now is a very similar approach on immigration

arista 13-05-2025 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by James (Post 11645787)
A cynical interpretation is that they are playing 4D political chess moves - boosting the Reform agenda to weaken the Conservatives further, to make the next election Reform versus Labour.

They will hope that enough people won't want to see Reform be the biggest party and Labour will stay in government.


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joeysteele 13-05-2025 08:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11645749)
So sorry to hear that Joey, dont lose hope, you are one of the good ones, I can imagine that many MPs are in dismay and there is a growing rebellion about PIP cuts, I have a feeling Starmer wont go the distance as PM? He and Reeves are terrible, though I will say he does seem to come into his own with foreign affairs, but domestically he is totally out of touch
Thank you Cherie
I hesitated before posting how I felt now however I've been a strong political poster negatively and positively since joining TIBB.
So have now updated my present position.
So it's appreciated you understand that.

I never in a million years expected the policies now being presented by this government.
Now though out of the blue on near scapegoating migrants like the other lot do.

Right, I'm off to plan something far more pleasurable, the last 2 sets of matches in the premier league.

joeysteele 13-05-2025 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11645752)
…Joey…:hug:..I feel so much for your sorrow, for your disappointment, for your disillusionment….:hug:….as you say, you generally wait before acting or making any huge decisions of any path in life…?….atm it feels almost impossible to find a visionary in politics and the only way that those visionaries will be seen and heard and hope to make any difference at all…?…is if they stay with their dreams …you’ll do what you feel is best, I know…:hug:…
Thank you too Ammi.
It is like a massive act of betrayal that's not just felt by me, however a growing number of other members and even MPs.

We worked hard and endlessly, not just through the days but planning activities at nights as to the canvassing the next days onwards.
When what you've said as the message given on doorsteps is then discarded once power was won.
Then that's a real hard blow.
Myself I have my own career and will be able to live without politics.
However I also am looking at the Labour members who have been members for many decades.
Pensioners who came out in the election to deliver leaflets and help the cause as they saw it then.
Who now also feel severely let down.
The last meeting I was at, the number of heads shaking in disbelief were incredible.
So made my decision, not easy, because I don't break loyalty to people or causes easily.
However this running up the backside of Farage and Reform by Labour now, was way too much to try to accept along with other policies done which were unexpected too.

joeysteele 13-05-2025 09:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11645723)
I did try to warn everyone, and you specifically, numerous times; but all that achieved was having another poster crying on your behalf because I asked you the odd question now and again.
I send you my apologies because you indeed were far more correct.
I didn't see, what you it seems had the foresight to see.

So my apologies again for my dismissal of your views over those times.

Oliver_W 13-05-2025 12:44 PM
Kemi is Badenoch, Starmer is Worse Enoch.

The Slim Reaper 13-05-2025 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11645811)
I send you my apologies because you indeed were far more correct.
I didn't see, what you it seems had the foresight to see.

So my apologies again for my dismissal of your views over those times.
You don't owe me an apology, Joey. I just wished that you wouldn't have ignored the obvious, and at the same time I apologise for maybe being a little over-zealous at times, but I just wanted to shake you awake.

Join the green party, and get behind Zack Polanski, who is currently the only person offering an alternative to this right wing hellscape of an island.

The Slim Reaper 13-05-2025 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11645750)
Back again and straight back to stirring the pot
You gave your opinion and people didn’t agree with you at the time so it’s time to move on.
What did I write to stir the pot? Everything was 100% factually accurate, but I didn't realise you'd been made a back seat mod whilst I was away. Congrats, my brother.

For the bit in bold - The topic we were discussing had nothing to do with opinions, it had to do with what was true and what wasn't; leading to disastrous consequences for the present and future of this country.

arista 13-05-2025 03:15 PM
[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,

joeysteele 13-05-2025 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11645924)
[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,
No, I won't be joining the Greens, you are right in that arista.

arista 13-05-2025 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11645925)
No, I won't be joining the Greens, you are right in that arista.

Good News.

You are a Sound Fella

Your help your Community
That is all that matters.

arista 14-05-2025 09:59 AM
Just Live on LBC

A Doctor phoned in
He was originally in Afghanistan.

But he was in France, working
as Doctor but left 8 years ago as
they wanted immigrant workers out.


Now, he is in the UK,
shocked that PM Stamer
is like Reform UK.



He also said it is good to see the Patient
Who had a heart attack, smiling
After they saved him.

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 02:42 PM

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11645924)
[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,
Please explain what you mean by extremists?

arista 15-05-2025 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646741)
Please explain what you mean by extremists?

Extreme Far Left.

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11646755)
Extreme Far Left.
Fully funded NHS? An end to austerity? I'm just wondering what you find extreme about them, especially as a reform supporter?

arista 15-05-2025 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646757)
Fully funded NHS? An end to austerity? I'm just wondering what you find extreme about them, especially as a reform supporter?
I am not a Reform UK
member.

But I will post News about them

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11646758)
I am not a Reform UK
member.

But I will post News about them
Who will you vote for? I didn't say you were a member.

What are the extreme policies of the far left green party?

arista 15-05-2025 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646764)
Who will you vote for? I didn't say you were a member.

What are the extreme policies of the far left green party?


Do not know who I will vote for, yet


A hell of a lot can change in 4 years



Slim, who do you back?

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11646769)
Do not know who I will vote for, yet


A hell of a lot can change in 4 years



Slim, who do you back?
I will vote green. They have removed the joint leadership gimmick, and will now vote Zack Polanski as it's leader. He is the only political leader in this country, that is offering anything different to austerity and racism. I voted green in the last election, too.

Who did you vote for?

arista 15-05-2025 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646772)
I will vote green. They have removed the joint leadership gimmick, and will now vote Zack Polanski as it's leader. He is the only political leader in this country, that is offering anything different to austerity and racism. I voted green in the last election, too.

Who did you vote for?


OK Green for You.

I voted Labour, for once

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11646777)
OK Green for You.

I voted Labour, for once
You voted labour at the last general? Jeez, I was completely wrong about that.

How do you think they are doing?

arista 15-05-2025 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646779)
You voted labour at the last general? Jeez, I was completely wrong about that.

How do you think they are doing?

Not Happy with PM Starmer now

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11646784)
Not Happy with PM Starmer now
Is it because he is attacking the poorest/disabled/pensioners? I guess you like his immigration stuff?

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 04:44 PM
Peter Obourne is a tory from the age of an actual centre right existing. He is not left wing.

The Slim Reaper 15-05-2025 04:49 PM
Sorry for spamming tweets, but the articles are valid.

Think this is the beginning of the end for Starmer. The only concern is someone like Streeting, kendall, or Reeves taking the position

Beso 15-05-2025 04:52 PM
Are news anchormen on Australia's sky news where we go to now for our British politics?

Oliver_W 15-05-2025 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646799)
Sorry for spamming tweets, but the articles are valid.

Think this is the beginning of the end for Starmer. The only concern is someone like Streeting, kendall, or Reeves taking the position
Labour leaders aren't easy to get rid of though. He can and probably will just ignore anything but a full scale uprising.

And as you say, what would be the point? It would only be "worth" ousting him if the entire beastly cohort that haunts the front bench goes too ... and chances are one of them would be the replacement.

arista 16-05-2025 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11646790)
Is it because he is attacking the poorest/disabled/pensioners? I guess you like his immigration stuff?

Hold on Slim,
He is still looking for an EU Nation


He is stupid to get this in the news
Before he has an agreement
With another nation.


So no
Not liking him at this time


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