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Matt 22-07-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.
Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
Agreed.

Tie for best post of the day :)

Oh god. There are millions of words I could call her right now, but I'll settle for self-righteous b*tch.

Arneldo 22-07-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
I would suggest that posters email Ofcom and Channel 4 about Charley's comments.

What she said was more controversial what Emily said, and Charley should get the same treatment.

If she does not then there are tollerating homophobia in exactly the same way the previously tollerated racism.

That has gone beyond the normal nasty comments.

This is potentially legally serious and she must be taken out as swiftly as Emily
Oh, don't you think Ofcom have a lot more serious issues to deal with?

Charley AND Gerry said some things which could be seen as offensive to each other. If one person is going to be kicked out so should the other. You cant pick and choose.

I dont think you could call what Emily did as "normal nasty comments". Emily offended thousands of viewers and millions of people around the world. Gerry offended Charley, and Charley offended Gerry.

Matt08 22-07-2007 09:00 PM

Maybe some people should complain to Ofcom aswell as Channel 4.

Billy 22-07-2007 09:03 PM

Chuck em both out, 2 birds with one stone

Lauren 22-07-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley AND Gerry said some things which could be seen as offensive to each other. If one person is going to be kicked out so should the other. You cant pick and choose.

I dont think you could call what Emily did as "normal nasty comments". Emily offended thousands of viewers and millions of people around the world. Gerry offended Charley, and Charley offended Gerry.
Difference being, one insinuated illegal activity, the other didn't.

Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"

Matt 22-07-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo

Oh, don't you think Ofcom have a lot more serious issues to deal with?
*Cough*RaceRow*Cough*

Useful links:

Complain to OFCOM
Complain to Channel 4

Matt 22-07-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Matt2k7
Maybe some people should complain to Ofcom aswell as Channel 4.
Complaining to OFCOM now.

Arneldo 22-07-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.
Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.

Foebane100 22-07-2007 09:06 PM

I think BB has realised it under reacted with the whole CBB and so it overreacted with Emily, but once it was done and they acted they couldn't really undo it.

I mean for god sake Emily is now thinking of leaving the country for just one stupid use of a word basically.

Billy 22-07-2007 09:06 PM

omg do we really need to get into technicalities, Charley insinuated he was a paedophile. Which is wrong and shouldnt be done end of

Lauren 22-07-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.
Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.
Paedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to children
15, is a child. She said he was sexually attracted to a child. I don't understand why you seem to have a different end of the stick to me?

no1bigbrofan 22-07-2007 09:09 PM

She should be kciked out and right now im making a complint to c4

Arneldo 22-07-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Arneldo
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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.
Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.
Paedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to children
15, is a child. She said he was sexually attracted to a child. I don't understand why you seem to have a different end of the stick to me?
Charley said "You sleep with younger men", it was Gerry who brought the 15 year old boy thing and the Paedophile word into it. What she said was wrong but saying would "sleep with old men for money" isn't exactly a light hearted insult.

Billy 22-07-2007 09:18 PM

Actually, it was Charley who said 15 year old men

x-stacy-x 22-07-2007 09:19 PM

ive made a complaint to c4 about her!!

by the way wat does "IMO" and "IMHO" mean??

Lauren 22-07-2007 09:19 PM

Charley brought up the age 15. Which is she then asked Gerry "Would it have been better if I said 16?"

Matt 22-07-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by x-stacy-x
ive made a complaint to c4 about her!!

by the way wat does "IMO" and "IMHO" mean??
"In my opinion" and "In my honest opinion"

Lauren 22-07-2007 09:22 PM

I've complained to OfCom about it.

Billy 22-07-2007 09:22 PM

gooo stacy for complaining woooop

Matt 22-07-2007 09:24 PM

Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:

Billy 22-07-2007 09:24 PM

I would but i dont know how

Matt 22-07-2007 09:26 PM

Useful links:

Complain to OFCOM
Complain to Channel 4

farhad 22-07-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:
She also said in the diary room that she could have said 12 and wouldn't have known the difference.

Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.

She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.

I also made my complaint to Ofcom and C4.

x-stacy-x 22-07-2007 09:29 PM

i didnt no how to do its to ofcom.. i got confused wiv the link haha! but i done 1 to c4!

Matt 22-07-2007 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
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Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:
She is disgusting.
Understatement of the century...

farhad 22-07-2007 09:34 PM

People, make yr views known to ofcom on charley's dangerous remarks that bb appears to have treated lightly....rememder the N word incident with Charley & the action that was taken then against the other person...thk u

farhad 22-07-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
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Originally posted by farhad
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Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:
She is disgusting.
Understatement of the century...
To think Emily was evicted at 3 in the morning for using the N word against Charley and she has made such a comment against Gerry and no action other than being called to the DR has been taken is outrageous!!.....What she said was totally slanderous and could have an effect on this guy's life when he leaves the BB House....Shame on u BB for just keeping her in 2 keep ratings up...where is the equality?.......

InTheHood 22-07-2007 09:44 PM

Although what Charley said is unfair, do you really think people complaining will make a difference?

Eventually though, they will relinquish Charley for Brian. BB want an ethnic minority winner, after the CBB fiasco (and as a black man, I do not wish to be associated with a fix!) the first twins to win, or a good looking bloke (Liam)

With Brian emerging strongly, we could see BB cutting ties with Charley and gathering momentum towards Brian, which they already have the latter and we know BB edit and fix things to favour their favourites.

I don't think they are ready to let Charley go just yet, but may do so in a couple of weeks.

the_chosen_one 22-07-2007 09:44 PM

Obviously Anti-Charley Logic is in full flow here, but I've heard several times Gerry brag about only liking "young boys". It's something which he has gone to lengths about to make sure everyone understands, that he likes younger people, and using the word "boys" is just making trouble for himself. "Boys" are male children.

Also, Charley specified she was unaware about the age limit, which is no great excuse, but considering Gerry himself has spent many an evening making sure people know he likes "boys", it was a mistake waiting to happen.

Chri$ 22-07-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
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I am utterly ashamed at the actions of Big Brother housemate Charley Uchea for implying that fellow housemate Gerry Stergiopoulous was a paedophile.

I am also ashamed at the actions of Big Brother.

Big Brother ejecting former housemate Emily Parr for saying one racist word which wasn't even, in my opinion, racially intended is unacceptable if BB is not going to eject Charley for accusing Gerry of a crime he didn't commit.

During the night Emily was ejected, Charley repeated the offending word a number of times but faced no punishment. She has also become one of the most volatile housemates ever in the history of Big Brother.

I am considering abandoning the programme now as the actions of Charley, over the whole series, are disgusting and I feel uneasy watching them.

I am disgusted with the actions of Big Brother and I am disappointed that as a long time fan of the show I now feel I may have to turn off.
My complaint to Channel 4... anything I could add?
Whats the link 2 email em?

Matt 22-07-2007 09:56 PM

Posted it above ^^

Matt08 22-07-2007 09:57 PM

Personally I think people who complain to Ofcom and Channel 4 actually end up ruining the series of Big Brother for the other fans. Hopefully Charley will be evicted this week, if not then there's nothing we can do about it.

Matt 22-07-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Matt2k7
there's nothing we can do about it.
And yet look what happened in January...

Feral 22-07-2007 10:03 PM

I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

Matt08 22-07-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
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there's nothing we can do about it.
And yet look what happened in January...
What happened in January is a totally differerent incident to what happened yesterday, what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.
Charley's comment is only one comment, which wasn't racial. Why can't everyone stop ruining the series by complaining. We all know that Charley is a nasty bitch. If Big Brother feel the need to interveine in the incident then they will. They don't need fans trying to interfere with the series and one off incidents.

no1bigbrofan 22-07-2007 10:06 PM

i dont recon bb would ever kick charley out couse they love her for some reason

Matt 22-07-2007 10:08 PM

One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

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Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.
In which case, I'm gonna keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...

Matt08 22-07-2007 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

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Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.
In which case, I'm going to keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...
Then that's going to make the whole incident alot more worse. There's no point you wasting Channel 4 and Ofcom's time and money investigating a silly little incident. What Charley said is unfortunately part of everyday life and you need to deal with that Matt instead of making loads of un-nessesary complaints.

Billy 22-07-2007 10:12 PM

Sorry but Emily the great was FAR too good a housemate to kick out, whereas we have a rubbish one getting kept in

Matt 22-07-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Matt2k7
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Originally posted by Matt
One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

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Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.
In which case, I'm going to keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...
Then that's going to make the whole incident alot more worse. There's no point you wasting Channel 4 and Ofcom's time and money investigating a silly little incident. What Charley said is unfortunately part of everyday life and you need to deal with that Matt instead of making loads of un-nessesary complaints.
Tell that to the 50,000 people who complained about the race row...


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