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Billy 31-08-2007 04:35 PM

Ok I apologise Lauren for disrespecting Diana, and she has the right to be missed as does everyone who is passed, as I would hate for someoen to say my gran shouldnt be missed

Lauren 31-08-2007 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Z
When it's the 10th anniversary of 9/11, people should move on, but they should remember it, and they will, because 3000 people died. I don't think that one person's death should be such a momentous occasion after 10 years. I don't think this would have gotten anywhere near as much as media attention if Diana hadn't been royalty, do you? That's not her fault, obviously, but this media attention, and the over-reaction to her death irritates me.
Yet consider this.

Those 3000 lives together don't mean as much as Diana as a mother to William and Harry.
I'd feel the same!

If my mum died, her life would mean more to me than 3000 strangers.
They shouldn't not celebrate just cos people are sick of seeing her face in the media.

Edit: And thank you Billy, that was my point. Although she may not have directly affected someones life - she was still someones mother, someones daughter, a sister, wife etc. They celebrated amongst themselves, it's just unfortunate the media act on it like prey.

CassetteFinger 31-08-2007 04:36 PM

It was so long ago i was 6 i can just remeber it being on the news like i dident really know wh9o she was then.

Jack 31-08-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Z
I'd say it's a hugely unfair comparison, there's a massive difference between one person's death and 3000 peoples' deaths. So yes, I'm sticking by my original point, people should move on. Diana's death was saddening for a huge number of people, but it wasn't for me, I don't think that I'm being disrespectful when I say that, because I know and appreciate all of the things she did in her life.

When it's the 10th anniversary of 9/11, people should move on, but they should remember it, and they will, because 3000 people died. I don't think that one person's death should be such a momentous occasion after 10 years. I don't think this would have gotten anywhere near as much as media attention if Diana hadn't been royalty, do you? That's not her fault, obviously, but this media attention, and the over-reaction to her death irritates me.
So the victims of 9/11 are more important and should be missed more than Diana? I didn't have to use that example, I could have used a number of examples. Elvis presley died 30 years ago, of which the anninversary was 2 weeks ago. People celebrated his life and music, and remembered him. So why shouldn't people for Diana?

Z 31-08-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren

Jack brought it up to show that those lives shouldn't be considered more news-worthy than Diana's life. Why should we accept that they're shown on our news every single year yet when Diana is celebrated for her 10 year anniversary people say they should move on?
Thats as if you're claiming that the 9/11 victims should be missed whereas Diana shouldn't be?

Edit: And if it wasn't for the papparazzi chasing her at high speed she'd never have crashed - to me that holds them responsible.

Diana's death is celebrated every year, it's always in the news, and that can't be denied. But the lives of those who died in 9/11 aren't more news-worthy, and I don't think in today's media, they are considered more news-worthy, Diana seems to be in the news regularly, even if it's a small article. Does anybody who is reading this fail to see that there is a great difference in circumstances of 9/11, and the death of Princess Diana?

And I would never claim that, I wouldn't be actively disrespectful towards anybody who celebrates her life, but I feel that ten years is a long enough time for people to move on. 9/11 happened almost 6 years ago now, and when the 10th anniversary for that comes, it'll be all over the news too, and I'm sure that will annoy me as well, and actually, the 5 year anniversary media coverage annoyed me too, I'm not sticking up for 9/11 mourners and their continued mourning either, but I think that, beyond family and friends, anybody else mourning any of these people is stupid. And that's my opinion, nothing will change that, I'm not being disrespectful to people who do mourn her death, because I'm sure some of you who do will have been affected by her work positively, and feel grateful towards her and wish to remember her.

Lauren 31-08-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Z
Does anybody who is reading this fail to see that there is a great difference in circumstances of 9/11, and the death of Princess Diana?
There is a difference in circumstance but when it comes down to it, both events had loss of life.

My point is; why is it alright to constantly report about 9/11 (why haven't people "moved on"?), yet Diana's time is up?

Z 31-08-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Z
When it's the 10th anniversary of 9/11, people should move on, but they should remember it, and they will, because 3000 people died. I don't think that one person's death should be such a momentous occasion after 10 years. I don't think this would have gotten anywhere near as much as media attention if Diana hadn't been royalty, do you? That's not her fault, obviously, but this media attention, and the over-reaction to her death irritates me.
Yet consider this.

Those 3000 lives together don't mean as much as Diana as a mother to William and Harry.
I'd feel the same!

If my mum died, her life would mean more to me than 3000 strangers.
They shouldn't not celebrate just cos people are sick of seeing her face in the media.

Edit: And thank you Billy, that was my point. Although she may not have directly affected someones life - she was still someones mother, someones daughter, a sister, wife etc. They celebrated amongst themselves, it's just unfortunate the media act on it like prey.
But nobody here is William or Harry, therefore rendering that point void. I agree with you, I'm trying to state the other side of the argument, I acknowledge that almost everything both you and Jack have said is correct, but I think that everything that I've said, excluding my opinion [well, not really.:thumbs:] is also correct. We could debate this all day, but I can only keep stressing that I simply don't care that she's been dead for 10 years, and I don't think it should be as newsworthy as it is. The same goes for when 9/11's 10th anniversary comes around, while I agree it was a very sad event, it didn't affect me, and it didn't even happen in this country, so as far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't be headlining our media.

Z 31-08-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Z
Does anybody who is reading this fail to see that there is a great difference in circumstances of 9/11, and the death of Princess Diana?
There is a difference in circumstance but when it comes down to it, both events had loss of life.

My point is; why is it alright to constantly report about 9/11 (why haven't people "moved on"?), yet Diana's time is up?
I don't think 9/11's constantly reported?


For one thing, there's a 4 year gap between the two events, 9/11 is more current, and therefore less stale. Everything I've read about Diana the past few days is rehashed from previous articles.

In short, I've seen it all before, and it's boring.

That's why I feel Diana's "time is up" from the media. I wouldn't mind at all if her death was noted every ten years from now, in fact I'd probably be quite interested to re-read things I'd forgotten, but we read small articles, big articles, all sorts about her, just as we were starting to forget about her.

Lauren 31-08-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Z

But nobody here is William or Harry, therefore rendering that point void.
But those are the ones that organised both the memorial service today AND the concert which renders YOUR point void by saying it's a PR stunt and people should move on. :laugh:

Bells 31-08-2007 04:50 PM

Even 10 years on, Princess Diana sparks so much debate, interest, enthusiasm and admiration. I’d say that in itself is pretty self-explanatory of what an amazing person she was, and I know that I for one will always remember and appreciate her for many years to come.

Z 31-08-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Z

But nobody here is William or Harry, therefore rendering that point void.
But those are the ones that organised both the memorial service today AND the concert which renders YOUR point void by saying it's a PR stunt and people should move on. :laugh:

Public Relations, it was related to the public. >___>


Wow, barrel scraping there. :P


But yeah, I forgot they organised it, I think I said earlier that I couldn't remember everything about it.

Dr43%er 31-08-2007 05:06 PM

"she wouldn't have wanted the media attention." I beg to differ but she was a media... I will hold back, but she knew how to use the media for her gain.

On her charity work. She will have been the face of the charity. But it will be the hundreds of people behind the scenes doing the day in day out work clearing mines, caring for AIDS and so on that will have saved the lives while she got the plaudits for doing what she was paid to do. It was her job.

Oh, and I am sure the firemen who lost their lives on 9/11 saved many more lives that Diana actually ever did.

Lauren 31-08-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dr43%er
"she wouldn't have wanted the media attention." I beg to differ but she was a media... I will hold back, but she knew how to use the media for her gain.
I'm pretty sure she'd have liked the media to not report her almost every week. Her kids meant more to her than anything and it couldn't have been easy on them seeing her face everywhere.

Lauren 31-08-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Dr43%er

Oh, and I am sure the firemen who lost their lives on 9/11 saved many more lives that Diana actually ever did.
Which is why I said that we shouldn't compare whose lives are "more worthy" to be shown on the news, I was using that as an example.

To William and Harry, Diana's life was more important than that fireman who saved lives - so why shouldn't they celebrate? They genuinely can't help the media interest.

Jack 31-08-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Dr43%er
"she wouldn't have wanted the media attention." I beg to differ but she was a media... I will hold back, but she knew how to use the media for her gain.

On her charity work. She will have been the face of the charity. But it will be the hundreds of people behind the scenes doing the day in day out work clearing mines, caring for AIDS and so on that will have saved the lives while she got the plaudits for doing what she was paid to do. It was her job.

Oh, and I am sure the firemen who lost their lives on 9/11 saved many more lives that Diana actually ever did.
I agree that she used the media to her advantage but this shuldn't be held against her.

But you are missing the point. Diana touched the lives of many and it is their choice to pay tribute to her on the 10th anniversary of her death. Nobody's is denying the importance of the victims of 9/11.

It's your choice if you wish to not pay respect and celebrate her life but again it's other peoples' choice to remember and pay tribute to her and people should respect that.

Dr43%er 01-09-2007 10:50 AM

"I'm pretty sure she'd have liked the media to not report her almost every week."

If you court the media then they are going to report on you. Princess Ann has done as much, if not more charity work. Who got the headlines? If she did not want to be in the headline every week it would have been possible. But she craved attention.

Your marriage breaks up so the natural reaction is to make a tv program about it so everyone can see how hard done by you have been. Most people would not want to air their dirty laundry in public. Was she thinking of her sons when she did that, or just of her self?

Siouxsie 01-09-2007 01:30 PM

I loved diana such a shame it happened tosuch a beautiful young kind lady


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