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usa4eva 06-02-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun
Yeah Conor, just a shame that nobody can name one of them [his policies]
.... He was against the Iraq war, but Hilary was for it,

.... He is against the Iran war, but Hilary is for it,

the only reason the us elections are big here in the UK is coz a black mans running in it, and there alot of depressed people here in the UK...

Stu 06-02-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by usa4eva
Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun
Yeah Conor, just a shame that nobody can name one of them [his policies]
.... He was against the Iraq war, but Hilary was for it,

.... He is against the Iran war, but Hilary is for it,

the only reason the us elections are big here in the UK is coz a black mans running in it, and there alot of depressed people here in the UK...
Rubbish. US elections are always big here. Its the top story on most news channels , simply because America is the superpower that it is. Its not a question of colour.

Anyway , to answer the question , I shall be backing Obama , with my limited knowledge of US politics.

If its not a conservative republican , im happy :thumbs:.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 07:14 PM

yeah i know its always been big, but never as big as this, as every one has been measuring the hype including John Snow of C4 News. Becuase of a Woman & a Black man being in the election process.

... so no, its not rubbish

XxShortyxX 06-02-2008 07:16 PM

Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.
have we suddenly forgot margrat thatcher?

usa4eva 06-02-2008 07:25 PM

she wants to go to war with Iran obama doesnt,

and you want her becuase shes a woman?

XxShortyxX 06-02-2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by usa4eva
Quote:

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.
have we suddenly forgot margrat thatcher?

Wow, one women who was in charge :bigsmile: I havn't forgoten her, but how many women have been in charge since her? Like zero, so I hope Hillary Clinton wins.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.
I might as well say I vote Obama because hes black,

but then everyone says no, we should vote on policies not race or gender.

but then its ok when some say they want clinton coz shes a woman...?

- clinton wants war with Iran

- obama doesnt want war with Iran

... obama, doesnt need to be "experienced" to know not to go to war

XxShortyxX 06-02-2008 07:37 PM

I might as well say I vote Obama because hes black,

but then everyone says no we should vote on policies,

but its ok when we say we want clinton coz shes a woman.

clinton wants war with Iran

obama doesnt want war with Iran

... obama, doesnt need to be "experienced" to know not to go to war [/quote]



There will be a war whatever, and whoever is in charge, Bush made that happen.

All I am saying is it's about time a women was in charge, instead of men being in charge all the time, would make it different.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 07:45 PM

i know, i was just being critical, but i dont agree that there will be a war no matter whos in charge.

MR.K! 06-02-2008 08:08 PM

personally i would vote for Hillary Clinton as she has experience in the White House and as First Lady.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRA!G
personally i would vote for Hillary Clinton as she has experience in the White House and as First Lady.
she has more experience yet she wants to go to war with iran? where does experience come in to that? ... personally..

Rory 06-02-2008 09:11 PM

I. can. not. stand. Hillary. Clinton, or even her husband.

I'm a Republican, and I support Huckabee, but if it was to be a democrat I wouldn't mind Obama.

I also wouldn't mind if Ron Paul or Romney won it.

Rory 06-02-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeanP!
I hope Hillary Clinton wins :banana:

Vote for her AMERICA, she deserves it !!
How does she deserve it?

I feel like it's this:
If you want everyone to be equal, no matter how hard they work, you're a democrat.

If you believe that people work for their status, then you're republican.

This is why the Latinos will definitely vote Democrat, while the wealthiest of Americans will vote Republican.

I don't think voting for Hillary Clinton just because she could be "The first woman president" or "She deserves it" (Still don't understand how she does) is the right way to decide who to vote for.

I disagree with her views on giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.
I disagree with the fact that there should be an increased tax for wealthy Americans.

Still, you guys aren't the one voting; neither am I, but my parents voted for Romney (yesterday), and my brother voted for Ron Paul (although, doesn't look like he's going to get it)

usa4eva 06-02-2008 09:29 PM

i think the assumption that they dont care about who we get apart from a black guy only gets stronger

who says things like "she deserves it"

Shaun 06-02-2008 09:57 PM

I think a lot of people are being swept aside in a big supposed "inspiration" wave by Obama, and are looking over the fact that, as far as I'm aware anyway, he doesn't really have many policies. Clinton has the experience of being in the White House and managing some political affairs with her husband Bill, and seems more resilient and determined to do something, rather than running the risk of all style and no substance with Obama.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 10:00 PM

Where do you get that from, its like a consensus for an "AGAINST OBAMA TACTIC"

she votes for war with Iran and Iraq

OBAMA doesnt want war with anyone of those countries, which would only get more of our own people dead.

the buzz word "experience" used with clinton is used as a tactic for avoiding Obama, its so transparent

Obama doesnt want war with Iran , Clinton does, What Experience is that?

Shaun 06-02-2008 10:11 PM

Firstly, Iraq isn't "war" any more. Just because Obama wants to drop everything and run away from the mess we've made, does not mean that Clinton's an idiot for staying there and try to clean it up.

As for Iran, I've personally no idea on that. From what I've heard, and I read a lot of news, I haven't heard her explicitly say "WAR WITH IRAN".

And as for having "more of our own people dead", well maybe they shouldn't join the army before they go to war then. That sounds extremely inconsiderate, I know, but you should know the dangers before joining.

usa4eva 06-02-2008 11:10 PM

obama voted against it before the Iraq war started, hilary voted for it and still is voting for it.

if everyone wants to know the candidates polices check this comparison table out: http://www.2decide.com/table.htm

...before you judge on looks

JeanP! 07-02-2008 05:10 PM

These are the super-tuesdays state-by-state results




DEMOCRATS

STATE OF ALABAMA
Barack Obama - 56%
Hillary Clinton - 42%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF ALASKA
Barack Obama - 74%
Hillary Clinton - 25%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF ARIZONA
Hillary Clinton - 51%
Barack Obama - 42%
Uncomitted - 7%

STATE OF ARKANSAS
Hillary Clinton - 70% *
Barack Obama - 27%
Uncomitted - 3%

* I love Arkansas:laugh2:

STATE OF CALIFORNIA
Hillary Clinton - 52%
Barack Obama - 42%
Uncomitted - 6%

STATE OF COLORADO
Barack Obama - 67%
Hillary Clinton - 32%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF CONNECTICUT
Barack Obama -51%
Hillary Clinton - 47%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF DELAWARE
Barack Obama -53%
Hillary Clinton - 42%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF FLORIDA
Hillary Clinton - 50%
Barack Obama - 33%
Uncomitted - 17%

STATE OF GEORGIA
Barack Obama - 66%
Hillary Clinton - 31%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF IDAHO
Barack Obama - 80%
Hillary Clinton - 17%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF ILLINOIS
Barack Obama - 65%
Hillary Clinton - 33%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF IOWA
Barack Obama - 38%
Hillary Clinton - 29%
Uncomitted - 33%

STATE OF KANSAS
Barack Obama - 74%
Hillary Clinton - 26%
Uncomitted - 0%

STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS
Hillary Clinton - 56%
Barack Obama - 41%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF MICHIGAN
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF MICHIGAN
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF MINNESOTA
Barack Obama - 67%
Barack Obama - 32%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF MISSOURI
Barack Obama - 49%
Hillary Clinton - 48%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF NEVADA
Hillary Clinton - 51%
Barack Obama - 45%
Uncomitted - 4%

STATE OF New HAMPSHIRE
Hillary Clinton - 39%
Barack Obama - 36%
Uncomitted - 25%

STATE OF New JERSEY
Hillary Clinton - 54%
Barack Obama - 44%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF New MEXICO
Hillary Clinton - 49%
Barack Obama - 48%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF New YORK
Hillary Clinton - 57%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA
Barack Obama - 61%
Hillary Clinton - 37%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF OKLAHOMA
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 31%
Uncomitted - 14%

STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINE
Barack Obama - 55%
Hillary Clinton - 27%
Uncomitted - 8%

STATE OF TENNESEE
Hillary Clinton - 54%
Barack Obama - 41%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF UTAH
Barack Obama - 57%
Hillary Clinton - 39%
Uncomitted - 4%

Delegates won

Barack Obama 838
Hillary Clinton 835

Shaun 07-02-2008 07:31 PM

Not sure if those figures are correct. According to BBC News;

Hillary Clinton
12 states, 1045 delegates

Barack Obama
15 states, 960 delegates

JeanP! 09-02-2008 06:28 PM

Mitt Romney has supended his campaign

Shaun 09-02-2008 06:51 PM

Anyone think there's been a case of multiple accounts with the voting? It was about 12-4 to Clinton vs. Obama :tongue:

JeanP! 10-02-2008 04:05 AM

Louisiana
Obama 57%
Clinton 36%

Washington
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

Nebraska
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

U.S Virgin Islands
Obama 92%
Clinton 8%

Estimated total delegates (Wikipedia)
Clinton 1,100
Obama 1,039

Estimated total delegates (BBC)
Clinton 1,084
Obama 1,057

Hillary Clinton is in the lead :dance:

Blink_Me 10-02-2008 11:40 AM

Hillary Clinton is a moron, but Obama will be new antichrist.

It's a tough choice for who the American people want as the new president.

Benji 10-02-2008 12:59 PM

i think Obama has a great chance of getting in...But i think Clinton will get it...i dont mind which one does tbh

KKBL 10-02-2008 01:07 PM

as long as its Clinton or Obama then i dont mind.

Blink_Me 10-02-2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeanP!
Louisiana
Obama 57%
Clinton 36%

Washington
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

Nebraska
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

U.S Virgin Islands
Obama 92%
Clinton 8%

Estimated total delegates (Wikipedia)
Clinton 1,100
Obama 1,039

Estimated total delegates (BBC)
Clinton 1,084
Obama 1,057

Hillary Clinton is in the lead :dance:
Just slightly. Obama is gaining a lot of momentum.

Shaun 10-02-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blink_Me
Hillary Clinton is a moron, but Obama will be new antichrist.
Interesting and informed opinions there :tongue:

bananarama 10-02-2008 10:13 PM

I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.

JeanP! 11-02-2008 12:14 AM

State of Maine
Obama 59%
Clinton 41%

Matt 11-02-2008 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bananarama
I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.
And you're in favour of Britain joining the EU? :tongue:

Bells 11-02-2008 09:36 AM

Barack Obama. He's a breath of fresh air for America: someone needed to take that vital step, and he did it. Having seen some of his interviews, he also has personal first-hand experience in the issues he wants to resolve as President, and I think that greatly increases his credibilty. Furthermore, he relied on funding purely through American people, i.e. through his book. In fact, the book itself was a great idea for the American people to learn more about him, and what he is about.

I'm surprised at the turnaround in voting on this poll: however, having said that, it still seems that Hillary Clinton still has a lot of popularity. The fact is though, the Clinton name does not give a fresh start for the USA: this is a time where change is crucial, and many people see Obama as that change. He's called himself the 'underdog' on many occasions, which I agree with, because he really is proving to be the dark horse in this race.

Blink_Me 11-02-2008 01:18 PM

The lead is sliding for Hillary. What a surprise. :rolleyes:

People are starting to see right through her. People just don't want Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. They want a new change.

Blink_Me 11-02-2008 04:21 PM

Obama is officially in the lead:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...te_counts.html

Can't say I didn't see it coming.

bananarama 15-02-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt
Quote:

Originally posted by bananarama
I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.
And you're in favour of Britain joining the EU? :tongue:
Perhaps you have not noticed but Britain has joined th EU.......What has Europe got to do with a topic about the USA.......:tongue:

Ruth 15-02-2008 04:37 PM

On balance I'd vote for Hillary. I quite like Obama - tough choice. I think Obama will win for the Democrats, and McCain will win for the republicans (obviously). The thing is that many republican voters don't like McCain, because he is too centralist. Those voters won't vote for a democrat, so they may not vote at all.

JeanP! 16-02-2008 02:41 AM

I hate Obama, Fake, fake, fake :mad:
Hillary will get ohio and texas vote hopefully:xyxwave:

Blink_Me 16-02-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeanP!
I hate Obama, Fake, fake, fake :mad:
Hillary will get ohio and texas vote hopefully:xyxwave:
Hillary is the fakest of the both.

She promises to bring the troops home pretty quickly, yet she was all for the war not so long ago. What's changed her mind? Could it be she's saying anything to get presidency?

Her healthcare plan will not be free despite what she says. It will still end costing the tax payer quite a bit of their money.

Her popularity is fading. People see right through her lies and desperation. She would be an even worse president than Bush, and that's saying something.

And I wouldn't be so sure she'll get the Texas or Ohio votes. In recent polls, Obama is closing the gap on her "popularity" in those states.

Shaun 16-02-2008 12:58 PM

There's absolutely no proof that Clinton is lying about any of those issues. At least she's set out real plans, whereas Obama is just using his "I'm young, vibrant and exciting!" card to try and whip up the excitable people.

I think he could be a good future President, and a good Vice...but he's not experienced or mature enough, and doesn't have a backbone.


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