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supernoodles! 17-02-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by 08marsh
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Originally posted by supernoodles!
I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.
She did crave all the attention, why do you think she agreed to all of her documentaries: Jades Salon, PA etc
That's why she went back to BB

Right but it worked both ways,the media craved her just as much.And what just because she craved attention shes made up the fact that shes dying?I think its stupid that some people are even questioning it.Yes everyones aloud their opinion but Its their reasons for it are just lame,no one has any reals facts to back up their claim.

Lewis. 17-02-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by supernoodles!
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Originally posted by 08marsh
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Originally posted by supernoodles!
I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.
She did crave all the attention, why do you think she agreed to all of her documentaries: Jades Salon, PA etc
That's why she went back to BB

Right but it worked both ways,the media craved her just as much.And what just because she craved attention shes made up the fact that shes dying?I think its stupid that some people are even questioning it.Yes everyones aloud their opinion but Its their reasons for it are just lame,no one has any reals facts to back up their claim.
I think what Supernoodles is trying to say is that The media were all over Jade and she just accepted because she would get some money out of it. I am being honest but wouldn't you agree to da a tv show if you knew you were getting thousands of pounds out of it? I ceraintly would! Staying in the limelight is the key to a good succesful life in showbussines and Jade realised that and played it to her advantage! Good on her i say!

Annie 17-02-2009 05:05 PM

This thread is actually disgusting. Someone as young as Jade is dying and leaving her young family alone without parents and you think she is faking it?

She is actually scared not knowing how long she has left to live. Not knowing how many days she will get to make her boys breakfast. Not knowing if she will make it to her birthday and you are saying she is doing it all for attention. I have never once said that her being in the limelight while having cancer was a good thing but I have never once doubted that its not true.

And stating that lots of people in britain is thinking the same is a joke as well. I have never heard ONE person apart from you say that she is faking having cancer. Thats actually disgusting.

Sam! 17-02-2009 05:06 PM

Of course she aint faking it.

supernoodles! 17-02-2009 05:10 PM

god help anyone doubting Jade if they ever get cancer or a member of their family.You know what its not even worth giving a response to really,seriously you must be stupid if you think Jade is lying and why are people saying good on you for saying what you think,its a sick thought.

supernoodles! 17-02-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Annie
This thread is actually disgusting. Someone as young as Jade is dying and leaving her young family alone without parents and you think she is faking it?

She is actually scared not knowing how long she has left to live. Not knowing how many days she will get to make her boys breakfast. Not knowing if she will make it to her birthday and you are saying she is doing it all for attention. I have never once said that her being in the limelight while having cancer was a good thing but I have never once doubted that its not true.

And stating that lots of people in britain is thinking the same is a joke as well. I have never heard ONE person apart from you say that she is faking having cancer. Thats actually disgusting.

yes,please do not tar the rest of Britain with the same brush thanks.

Mrluvaluva 17-02-2009 05:16 PM

It would take a lot of sick people to make up and maintain a story like this and I don't think any number of people are that depraved.

Lauren 17-02-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.
We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

Annie 17-02-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.
We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?
Exactly. This is a forum. We discuss opinions within each other. It wasnt that when Spike said he could rape/murder someone. It was alright to act that way then? No?

Tom4784 17-02-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.
We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?
I'm not arguing with that, it's just the replies like 'you're disgusting for saying that!' 'you should shut up with opinions like that' ETC.

Debate away, I like debate just don't deride him is all i'm saying.

Lauren 17-02-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing with that, it's just the replies like 'you're disgusting for saying that!' 'you should shut up with opinions like that' ETC.

Debate away, I like debate just don't deride him is all i'm saying.
Fair enough, I agree people shouldn't be insulting him.

But I feel given the sensitive nature it's expected some people are passionate at countering the OP.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 05:51 PM

I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not gonna insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.

Lauren 17-02-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
so get off your high horse.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co....se_484619a.jpg

But it's so pretty :sad:

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.
We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?
ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

Annie 17-02-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
so get off your high horse.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co....se_484619a.jpg

But it's so pretty :sad:

:joker::joker::joker:

Lauren 17-02-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.
I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour. :laugh:

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.
I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour. :laugh:
YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

Lauren 17-02-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.
I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:10 PM

Yeah I remember that. And a lot of those people still take jabs at him for it. I wasnt on that day, I just heard about it. YOu better believe it, if I was, I would be having the exact same reaction. And if I was to state what I think is disgusting on this forum, a lot of people would get it. And but I let them get on with it, either, I would respond saying what my opinion is of the situation, or I would normally just ignore it if it really pisses me off. This thread have pissed me off, and its not the OP's opinion that has, but the way the people on here love to gang up on someone, when they think they have the moral high ground on the subject. And funnily enough, I am betting a lot of them are joining in on the bashing, just to appear like moraly good people on this forum. Like anyone gives a shiit to be honest!


And the only reason I quoted your post Lauren, is because you stated that all people are doing is replying to the OP! Well they are not just replying, they are attacking him.

Tom4784 17-02-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.
I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.
I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'

inspector-frost 17-02-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not going to insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.
well said,this is a forum for discussion and to have a discussion people put forward their views and opinions.
it is an awful thing to be going through but how much truth is out there about it all-who knows.people have to go through things like this on their own in the privavcy of their own home each and every day.i know for a fact that if i only had months left to live i would spend every precious minute left in privacy with my family especially my kids!!!

Annie 17-02-2009 06:18 PM

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

supernoodles! 17-02-2009 06:24 PM

unfortunatly I think any people doubting Jade will be eating their words in the near future,I hope they feel bad,but they probably wont.

Annie 17-02-2009 06:26 PM

I remember the last time people on this forum doubted that someone was dying of cancer and they soon ate their words.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:31 PM

Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.

Lauren 17-02-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'
The fact is they're both opinions, which we're entitled to have. I didn't state they were the same thing and you know I didn't.

supernoodles! 17-02-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.
well surely if their aloud to have their opinion we can have ours and call their opinion disgusting etc if we like.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:46 PM

I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.

Matt08 17-02-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!
It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

Annie 17-02-2009 06:51 PM

But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!
It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.
Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

Annie 17-02-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!
It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.
Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.
:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Annie
But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?
Ermm first of all if that happened, I wouldnt give a **** what other people think or say about it. Secondly, if your mom had cancer, and exploited every opportunity to make money from the media, even posing for photos outside the hospital, then weather she was faking or not, I would think its perfectly understandable for people to have their say and speculate weather its fake or not. This wouldnt be the case, if she was like every other cancer patient in the world as far as I know. Nobody deserves what she is going through, but the speculations are warranted by her actions.

Matt08 17-02-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!
It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.
Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.
Who are you to tell me what I can and can't say to someone? I've voiced my opinion on what I think of their views, my opinion is that they are cruel and sick.

Lewis. 17-02-2009 07:01 PM

I respect that OfficialLeafan Has an opinion like the rest of us, but i do believe that Jade would not do anything like this. No-body with any sense of Shame, would do anything like that, especially when her illness has been broadcast in such a high profile way? She is a clever girl and knows that if she was lying and it was revealed, she would be absolutely Hated forever by everyone. My thoughts are now with her and her family, who must be going through so much heartache! My wish is that she spends the rest of her life doing things she wants to do with her children and i wish her all the best for the future

supernoodles! 17-02-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.

lol a disguise to insult the OP,firstly I dont see calling his opinion disgusting and secondly why would I use a disguise to insult him?I`m saying it because its a nasty thing to even think.

Matt08 17-02-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
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Originally posted by Annie
But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?
Ermm first of all if that happened, I wouldnt give a **** what other people think or say about it. Secondly, if your mom had cancer, and exploited every opportunity to make money from the media, even posing for photos outside the hospital, then weather she was faking or not, I would think its perfectly understandable for people to have their say and speculate weather its fake or not. This wouldnt be the case, if she was like every other cancer patient in the world as far as I know. Nobody deserves what she is going through, but the speculations are warranted by her actions.
When has she ever used something that serious to milk attention from the media? I think if your Mum was going through the same thing then you would care what people thought, but you wouldn't know that until it happened to you.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 07:03 PM

YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

Matt08 17-02-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.
You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.

Wildcat! 17-02-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by supernoodles!
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.

lol a disguise to insult the OP,firstly I dont see calling his opinion disgusting and secondly why would I use a disguise to insult him?I`m saying it because its a nasty thing to even think.
Its is not a nasty thing to think imo, because she warranted those thoughts! I ersonally dont see how its possible, bt for people who do think that, I know where they are coming from.


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