I'm sorry to be the one to bring this up, but at age 13, I find it absolutely shocking that you have an opinion like that.

You will have to see it like a BluRay 1080P Disc Movie
Rated 18.

I agree. I don't see how anyone can see how it's ok to rape someone after they've done it to someone else. Isn't that just telling them it's ok to rape?

As for the death penalty, I don't agree with it. These rapists don't want to spend the rest of their live in jail. I'm sure they'd rather die. And that's exactly what you'd be giving to them. But I think the answer is longer sentences. 3-5 years for raping someone is way too short.

Im more worried about what theyre teaching him in class!

Lewis! Would you watch them die?

Sorry but its the tax payer that suffers and those that die because money is spent on criminals in prison instead of the sick......

Money is spent on rehabilitation and learning how to detect and prevent future crimes. Is that a waste? ...and its not "instead" of the sick. And they have to have some system of priveleges to keep order.

Sentencing values in this country are indeed based on insane thinking by the panel that decide on such.

On topic. You cannot put Rape as horrible as it is above murder........You cannot execute rapists but not murderers......

Also Rape is so easily contrived by a bitter woman that it would almost certainly be the case that false accusiations would result in many unjustified executions......

No. To bring in the death penality for rape would be the height of crass stupidity.....But i agree sentencing is far to lenient.......But accused/convicted rapists must be kept alive in case the rapist is a victim of a womans revenge for something...


Forensics can only indicate intamacy it cannot indicate rape unless possible anatomical damge in some cases proves otherwise.

The death sentence should be introduced for cold blooded murderers........Drug peddlers and dealers should also be aotomatically executed regardless of the nature of the drugs

Recreational drug takers and those that brainwash religion into children should be birched until their flesh drops off......

New statement to debate :)

banarama

'Until there Flesh Drops off' ???


Maybe you should work in the Turkey Prisons.

Yes. People shouldn't be killed simply because they are an inconvenience. Its their fault they are having a baby, they should deal with it!

I'm a bit split on this one, I don't agree with abortion as it's basically killing someone, like there's a heartbeat and all early on, like the baby doesn't deserve to have its life ended, like Tom said, just becasue its an inconveinence. Like you might aswell have it and put it up for adoption so it has a chance in life.
But if you were raped, you wouldn't want a living reminder of what happened, like you'd find it harder to love that child because of the way it was conceived. Aswell, for teenagers, having a baby at 13\14\15 can really mess up your education. There's a girl from my town due a few weeks before her GCSE's and it must be awful for the likes of her.

I am split too. If it is a normal person in a normal love life and a happy family wanting one, then they should not be allowed. But if it is someone who was raped, or really young, then i agree that Abortions should be used

Lewis if they want a baby they ent going to have an abortion though?


Also i agree with abortions, when its just a few cells because thats what it is for a while..
And if you dont want a baby or didnt plan for one i dont see why not, you have to make a big decision 9 months of your life where you are limited to what you can do, and your body changes for longer.

I mean like, If they have broken up with the partner, but are still friends

its not just 9 months its the rest of your life as well

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I actually LOLed at this. I woke gav up and now hes twisting on about me not sleeping again :D

in most situation abortion is wrong...
youre killing someone!!
surely thats wrong.

it is killing an innocent person for convenience.

( and if you are to mention rape then please do so using numbers)

Whatever a person's views - in the end - no-one has the right to tell another person what to do with their own body.

Even today - giving birth is a risk and could lead to complications and even death. Absolutely no-one has the right to put another person in that situation against their will -nevermind the moral implications of a person's individual choice.

Bang on.

You're right there Setanta it's such a grey subject really, I rarly even get into arguments about it! I lean more on the side of disagreeing with abortion and I'd like to think I would never have one, but having said that I've never been raped so how could I say with 100% honesty how I would feel or what I would do then? It's the people who almost use abortion as a form of contraception really piss me off though.

Ah yeah, that's true. I have the same problem with people who are irresponsible when it concerns birth control but I do think there would always be certain situations where it would be difficult to know what to do.

Is Abortion wrong? In my opinion, yes, it is. But is it any of my business? No, it's not. End of argument. So you could say I am anti abortion and pro choice.

A heartbeat is a very instinctual, physical expression of life. Chickens have heartbeats. What gets aborted is not capable of cognitive thinking, therefore it is not yet fully human in my eyes.

If you want to debate intelligence, then pigs, sheep, cows, kangaroos and a few hundred thousand other species of animal are all far more aware of the world, far more alive, and far more knowing than a little foetus in vitro.