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I'm not sure it matters what their sexuality was tbh.They were people in a nightclub and were attacked by a terrorist.People of every sexuality have been killed by these bastards.Not sure what the big deal is with the semantics of these poor people's sexuality.It can happen to any of us who are in a public place.
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And acknowledging that this was a hate crime does not diminish all of the other attacks that have taken place |
they were targeted specifically because of their sexuality so their sexuality has everything to do with it.
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So it is VITAL that we don't ignore that aspect of this attack. Not because "only gay people can own the hurt caused" as those screeching bullies (they tagteamed and talked over him; NOT good journalism ffs) on Sky News would have us believe is the intent... but because it is important to show solidarity... to stand up and say "We know what you want, we know what you are trying to do, but you will fail, and the people and lifestyles that you hate will ALWAYS be accepted and embraced in our countries, no matter what you do." It is EVEN MORE important that straight people do this. VERY SADLY from reading and seeing various things since this tragedy, I am starting to realise that the truth is... for a large number of people that simply is still not the case at all. |
i honestly don't see what all this arguing over semantics is intended to achieve, as if labeling it one thing or another makes it worse/better depending on which side you are on.
It was a hate crime specifically against a particular group, it was a terrorist attack. The man may have been mentally unstable, maybe not. It really doesn't matter. It was still an horrific act. No normal person would consider taking that action against anyone, its not typical behaviour. Its not indicative of a trend. There aren't suddenly going to be 100 more that will say, I will now do that too, because it just isn't normal. Its heartbreaking that there are people like that in the world, but its bound to happen with the numbers of population that we have. Compound that with a terrorist group that are excusing their behaviour by latching on to an interpretation of a religion, that itself has millions of followers and you will get these crazy people. |
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You've aptly demonstrated over several pages that you don't understand that nor the implications so I feel it would be a waste of time to elaborate any further. |
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The shooter hasn't said that and the wife is only now speaking to the FBI. Aren't you going to wait until the investigation is done before deciding on why a particular target was picked? |
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And no I don't need to wait for the important men in their important suits with their important jobs to tell me what I think. I'm capable of getting there without help, amazingly. |
His father and wife said he hated gays and would get angry seeing a gay couple together so even if he did apparently scope out Disney he evidently had issues with homosexuality or else why chose that especific club?
I don't beleven for a second it was random |
Everyone is being so silly, It had nothing to do with the LGBT community, he just happened to target gay people at a gay club during Pride Month.
It could have happened to anyone. |
...well, whatever hates he felt and whoever he felt those hates toward, there was only one hate that he acted on with his death weapons and only one hate that ended those lives and only one hate that was targeted..whatever else that was in his head, that will never change, that gay people only were the target of this terrorist act of hate...making it by definition, a terrorist act of hate toward the LGBT community...
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some people need to stop playing with words it is really annoying me.
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psychopathic tendencies: check
religion from birth: check Living in a place that is not his home and feeling incongruous: check At odds with true sexuality: check Availability of combat weaponry: check Feeling isolated and ashamed due to sexuality: check Going to the club and still feeling it and getting rage about people who are out and getting partners: check depression: check suicidal thoughts: check rage: check murder |
Or radicalised and takes on a soft target ..check
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"... Supporters of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria from all over the world should attack citizens of Western states such as the US, France and UK, according to a statement by the group’s spokesman. Abu Mohammed al Adnani urged the group’s supporters: “If you can kill a disbelieving American or European – especially the spiteful and filthy French – or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way, however it may be,” he said. ..." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-9749512.html |
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You would avoid the club if you couldn't stand to see gay men together. |
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The perpetrator of this was gay so they were killed by a member of their own community. If he were straight then you might have a point. |
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He was gay, or at least bisexual. And I think he shot the club up because it was convenient to shoot up a place he knew well. Just like the san bernardino couple shot up his workplace. |
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