I thought it was a good episode, clumsy in parts (mainly to do with a bunch of english characters knowing so much about Rosa when American History isn't really taught much in the UK) and the villain was woeful but this wasn't an episode in which the villain mattered.

It's a daring episode but overall I thought it was a triumph tbh.

love that andra day song during that emotional scene :flutter:


it was a very lovely episode, awful how things were back then in america and yes Rosa Parks is a true icon

also nice to see other historical iconic characters such as Martin Luther King

American History is taught loads in the UK

The worst acted New Who companion BY FAR.

Tbf, Rosa Parks is very well known. I'm not au fait with a lot of major American history but even I know the Rosa Parks story.

I think I understand why now.

The old titles they could have a dramatic cut into from an intriguing cold open.

With these new ones, they have quite a silent and gradual start so it would look odd smash cutting from a cold open to those.

Not dangerous, it just can't be done.

But that's two villains we've had out of three episodes vanish/teleport elsewhere.

An arc is forming. :think:

The crap pop song, I'm led to believe, is one of the songs used by the Black Lives Matter campaign.

So... Shobna Gulati is playing

Um what's wrong with Shobna?

Doesn't make it any less crap or out of place in a Doctor Who episode.

She was an associate of Dr King, who preached for nonviolence, so they'd probably both be against BLM anyway.

Not really unless you're talking at college/uni level which is deceptive since that would only be available to people opting to do history courses in those subjects. My experience in history at school were of the Vikings, Anglo Saxons, Greeks and Romans and then English history and then I dropped it in year 9 but I know people who went on to do it in Year 10 and 11 just focused on WW2. I don't think American History is ever really covered at the level of history that most students will experience in school.

Like everything I've come to know about US history, it's come from the internet and other sources. I've known of Rosa Parks for years but I can't recall many other UK people knowing of her.

BLM isn't violent, as ever it's the white people on Fox News that focus on extremes to tar a whole movement because they are scared of black people. Most BLM protests are peaceful and you don't hear of them because the kind of media that often covers them want the protest to erupt into violence so they can do their 'look at these violent black people' sctick

I'm surprised you think that, Dezzy. I'm certain I learnt a bit about American History throughout school, and I think those who are intentionally not ignorant know who Rosa Parks is. I'm confident enough to suggest that I would've been able to explain who she was at Primary School age. Though, there were a few things I wasn't aware of before watching the show (that she was a seamstress, knew Martin Luther King, etc.)

Anyway, I'm absolutely in love with this series. I think Jodie is absolutely fantastic, and I'm fond of all the companions. I think it's a really nice mix. The cinematography is spectacular, and I've enjoyed all three episodes very much. I haven't been able to sit through a Doctor Who episode since S5 (or the 50th special if you count that), so I'm extremely happy that my love for the show has resurfaced. I think Chibnall and everyone else are doing a really good job, there's a sense of excitement and intrigue with each episode, and I like the fact that there isn't an over-riding need to overcomplicate things like before.

I was looking forward to Rosa and it didn't disappoint. Fantastic from start to finish.

Maybe the curriculum has changed in the 12 years since I left school but I've personally never heard of American history being covered in anything other than College and Uni courses related to it. I had to learn everything I know about US history off my own back.

I'd be all for changing the curriculum if it hasn't changed since I was in school. I'd have taken history as an option had it covered more than it did.

I learned about Rosa Parks in primary school lol. I thought her story was common knowledge but I've seen quite a few people on twitter etc saying they've never heard of her

Clip from the next episode

Holy ****

It's so weird to think that series 10 was getting sub 3m overnight for some episodes and now it's on par with the revival series :love:

My GCSE History was all about American History :laugh:

We learnt about her at school.
No, UK schools don't cover much American History, but Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks I imagine are two of the biggest figures that at least get a mention.

It wasn't out of place, it was directly linked to the subject matter of the episode.

"Out of place in Doctor Who" is a meaningless statement as its a show that completely changes its tone, genre and style from one week to the next.

I, for one, am glad the show has remembered it's not just about space travel and fighting, but also about time travel. So getting an episode set in the past with the sci-fi/alien aspect toned right down is recapturing an aspect of Doctor Who we haven't seen in a while IMO.

I don't think she was very good in Corrie.

It's not really the first time Doctor Who has used a real world song either

She is definitely getting better and better. Very good scene.

I'm probably super slow at realising this, but aside from 'The Parting of Ways' all of the regeneration episodes have 'Time' in the title
-The End of Time
-Time of the Doctor
-Twice Upon a Time