watching that again is quite horrific

Both marriages had broken down i think ? but early days when the grooming of the parents started both Dads were all for it

The way that boy is gripping his hand and snuggling into his shoulder !!

Oh well, he should invited the dad's along to never ever land more often than he did...are you sure it wasn't the step dad's that were up for it?...I know it was that way for cory..

Oh yuck...it's like watching that us senator fondle all the workers families as he thanks them for the work they have done..Can't remember his name but it was sick.

Made me feel sick ......why did the parents ( mostly Mams ) not stop this from the start ?

Joe Biden was his name.

Oh yes I remember him !!

Another 11 boys ( never girls is it ? ) have come forward


http://rtl247.uk/michael-jacksons-bo...j3YExHL63my5bM

The mothers definitely look worse (because they actually feature in the Doc) however what did the dads actually do to stop it while they were with the mothers? Nothing. They were in the photos too so clearly knew their sons were sleeping with MJ

Too much for some of them..

https://nypost.com/2009/11/18/jacko-...kills-himself/

He isn't one of the guys in the Documentaries parents though, that's who I'm discussing

Oh ok...well I brought it up and I was discussing them all..:blush:

I did read that article though, it sounded like he killed himself because of harassment by MJ fans and was very paranoid over that aswell

One was 20,so I presume the other one was close

kids? they were grown men

Yes,isn't one a budding actor but isn't working at the moment ?

And the same could be said the other way round Chuff,people have it in their head he was guilty and that wont ever change in their minds , I watched it and it made me feel even more that something was not on the level.

I remember the Martin Bashir film, thats the time my MASSIVE doubts on him started and nothing Ive seen over the years since have changed my mind ,the docu on Tuesday night was more damning than last nights film too

Yes and Bashir got a lot of stick for that as he twisted a fair bit of stuff, the 'story' tonight will no doubt be more or less like last nights,but I will watch it,not that I want to,not because I don't want to hear it but because I hate to think I have put any coffers or time into any of this,but if I am to comment I have to watch.

Did you watch Tuesday nights documentary ? IMO it was far more damning than last nights ... In Bashirs film Jackson showed himself to be a liar ,he openly denied having facial surgery apart from having his nose done " to breath easier :joker: " then back tracked and said he had maybe had 2 surgeries then it went to 3 !!

Has the second bit not been shown yet? Watched online so obviously both were there..

On tonight

No the 2nd HBO 2 Hour
is Tonight Ch4HD 9PM

Ah right, am ahead of everyone then