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Zizu 04-01-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10979107)
I'm not a cynic. ... as you know....

But does anyone else think that this is why they postponed the 2nd Pfizer jabs for the vulnerable?

If they are proven the more effective of the 2, then they are going to be in greater demand.
I really can't see any other reason that makes any sense to have cancelled appointments for it.



As I understand it .. there’s a shortage of available vaccines so they want to give as many people as possible an initial dose to try and slow this virus down ... then worry about the second dose whenever possible .


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Kizzy 04-01-2021 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10979114)
As I understand it .. there’s a shortage of available vaccines so they want to give as many people as possible an initial dose to try and slow this virus down ... then worry about the second dose whenever possible .


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Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.

Zizu 04-01-2021 07:16 PM

Light at the end of the tunnel - Covid [vaccine news]
 
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10979119)
Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.



Really ??

Maybe we ORDERED all those ...


Pretty sure I heard that the only things slowing down the vaccine program is shortage of vaccines and shortage of staff available to administer them ..


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smudgie 04-01-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10978986)
#]

This is dated 24/12

BRITAIN has issued a ban on all travel from South Africa to halt the spread of a new, more infectious strain of coronavirus.

The Department of Transport last night confirmed that all passengers travelling from South Africa to England from 9am this morning would not be permitted to enter the country.

Yep. A schoolteacher mate of my daughters went over to see his family.
After being advised not to.

Zizu 04-01-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10979185)
Wow the Oxford one only offers 70% immunity after the first jab? That’s a lot lower than I thought. They made out that two jobs offer 90-95% immunity and that there was barely any difference between 1 jab and 2 jabs. Maybe the Oxford vaccine just has the lowest immunity of all of them?


Is that correct .. ..

I don’t suppose you get a choice when the call comes though ..



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user104658 04-01-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10979119)
Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.

We have ORDERED hundreds of millions of doses. They haven't actually been manufactured or delivered.

Zizu 04-01-2021 10:39 PM

Sobering thoughts from Thomas Moore Sky Science correspondent

So we know that the recent rise in infections is solely due to this new more virulent variant - it is 50% more transmittable .

The virus is staying one step ahead of the science .
It’s basically a race now between the ‘injections’ versus ‘infections’ ‘

90% of deaths are over 65 and we have 17 million people over 65 .

The dilemma is how quickly can we get an initial dose into 17 million people ... as the virus ain’t sitting around waiting ..


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Kizzy 05-01-2021 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10979200)
We have ORDERED hundreds of millions of doses. They haven't actually been manufactured or delivered.

Really? Pfizer said millions of doses had been sent and the government reported recieving 22 deliveries on Christmas day.

bots 05-01-2021 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10979279)
Really? Pfizer said millions of doses had been sent and the government reported recieving 22 deliveries on Christmas day.

the pfizer manufacture/distribution is much slower than the oxford vaccine due to its complexities. They will speed up but at the moment it is a challenge.

If we get the vulnerable vaccinated by the autumn, i think that should be considered a good result.

Ammi 05-01-2021 06:47 AM

Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...


https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

bots 05-01-2021 06:53 AM

you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab as your body is more likely to generate good quantities of anti bodies.

Ammi 05-01-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10979319)
you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab as your body is more likely to generate good quantities of anti bodies.

...as if we’re all going to sleep like babies and be totally relaxed and calm the Eve before Jabber Day...:laugh:...

Zizu 05-01-2021 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10979285)
the pfizer manufacture/distribution is much slower than the oxford vaccine due to its complexities. They will speed up but at the moment it is a challenge.



If we get the vulnerable vaccinated by the autumn, i think that should be considered a good result.



They’re saying they will achieve that by 6th Feb aren’t they or was that a different thing ?




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Zizu 05-01-2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10979317)
Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...





https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html



Hopefully this will be mentioned to everyone or there’s going to be a lot of wasted vaccines


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bots 05-01-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10979334)
They’re saying they will achieve that by 6th Feb aren’t they or was that a different thing ?




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i'm classifying the vulnerable as 55 and over and those with existing conditions

Zizu 05-01-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10979336)
i'm classifying the vulnerable as 55 and over and those with existing conditions



Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??


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user104658 05-01-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10979317)
Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...



https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

Whew! I don't drink so the vaccine will work much better for...

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10979319)
you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab

Oh never mind :bawling:

user104658 05-01-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10979339)
Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??


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I think it was over-85's or maybe over-80's? By FAR the largest group for Covid deaths but only a small proportion of what's considered still "in a vulnerable group".

Ammi 05-01-2021 08:41 AM

...I believe that he was referring to over 70s in age and all of the other medically vulnerables etc...but as per Boris, it’s quite an ambitious hoped for in time span...let’s see how it goes with any potential delays being allowed for as well...

Cherie 05-01-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10979339)
Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??




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didnt hear 6th Feb specifically, think he might have said mid Feb

The first 4 priority groups

Care homes, care staff
front line workers
over 80s
clinically vulnerable

Ammi 05-01-2021 09:35 AM

...I’m confused, he did say over 70yrs would all be vaccinated by mid February as well...I felt sure that I’d heard that, unless I’m misunderstanding something....?...

...from 5:44 in his speech...




...actually, what I did miss is that he said those were the ‘realistic projections’ from the NHS ...

arista 05-01-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10979379)
didnt hear 6th Feb specifically, think he might have said mid Feb

The first 4 priority groups

Care homes, care staff
front line workers
over 80s
clinically vulnerable


Gove MP has said today
it could be until March, now.

Ammi 05-01-2021 09:38 AM

...yeah, we have learned that with Boris, it all tends to be...a rough, maybe, possible guideline of a potential that might occurrence...other than that he’s almost spot on once he’s u-turned etc...

Vanessa 05-01-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10979317)
Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...


https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

That's ok. I don't drink.

arista 05-01-2021 04:47 PM

The World Health Org.
Pfizer The 2 Vaccines must be done within 21 days.

Not the long UK 12 weeks

SkyNewsHD
said they stated that while the PM did his Conference, just now.


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