Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11087128)

... ... ... you are aware that Trump initiated the deal to withdraw from Afghanistan, right?

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11087131)

Yes Trump set up all the agreements
it was concluding, but Trump lost the Election.


Biden Changed the May date
to Sept 11.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11087122)

I'm so sick of people trying to make out that Trump was somehow better. The man nearly brought us into WW3, we never knew where we were with him because he was crazy and petulant. Let's not get nostalgic over a mad man.

Biden is terrible, but that doesn't magically make all the wrongs and crimes committed by Trump suddenly disappear.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11087140)

Biden is going Live
soon.

Keeping his 31st Aug 21 Date to conclude

USA troops starting to leave from Friday, reports say.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11087136)

Perhaps his craziness was the weapon that kept our opponents from starting world war 3!

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11087141)

That date isn't changing I don't know why they are even suggesting it will

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11087143)

The lies people tell themselves are quite remarkable.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11087154)

But they both agree to keep ISIS out.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11087155)

the taliban freed 5000 isis fighters from prison last week to go on their merry way

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11087155)

the taliban freed 5000 isis fighters from prison last week to go on their merry way

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11087164)

Hopefully not the guy who got on a plane out who had a ‘no fly’ against him who has now disappeared in Birmingham

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11087170)

This is really concerning the mess this has become and unnecessarily too.

It's becoming clear the special relationship between the UK and USA only appears to work with us following the US, not vice versa.

As for Biden, I am massively disappointed in his terrible and wrong judgement on this evacuation from Afghanistan.
It's awful and will rightly cone back to haunt him politically I hope.

HOWEVER too, as to Trump.
The problem with him was you never knew where you were with him.
He was reckless, heartless and dangerous in his Presidency.
Plus he was the original architect of this horrendous mess unfolding.

Although the one who executed and opened up the chaos to come re Afghanistan, is undoubtedly Biden.

To me it's all another case of an abandonment of duty.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11087173)

You never knew where you were with Trump? Maybe the problem was that you never actually listened to him and instead just listened to people's opinions of him. Trump was pretty plain speaking and I think people understood exactly where they where with him. He certainly didn't hold back from saying what he meant.

His message was clear from the start. "we're gonna drain the deep state swamp and give the power back to you the people, America and Americans first"

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11087180)

No.
I rarely listen to others and make my own mind up on others, particularly those entrusted with power.

Trump was a dangerous and paranoid individual who is only consumed with a need of control and power.
That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.

If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be.

Biden, for his faults is wrong bigtime on seeing this through, this disaster looming re Afghanistan.
It would prevent me supporting him again were I am American voter.
Any policy that risks and loses lives unnecessarily deserves contempt only.

However, unlike Trump and his divisively hateful ideas, Biden still is not in Trump's league of being unsavoury.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11087184)

"That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.

If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be".


That's a bit cheeky to say if you ain't sure whether you are right or wrong!

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11087165)

They have arrested him

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11087188)

You know.
I do wonder why I even bother posting on here when other members jump in to nitpick.

I stated my opinion.
My judgements of Trump.

To me mine are 100% right.

HOWEVER I can't help it if others think it wrong.
Hence why I included rightly or wrongly.
Anyway.
I'm off this thread as I'm sick to the back teeth of petty nitpicking from you for one, on what I post as my OWN opinion.

No wonder members are leaving.
.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11087208)

Nah, he was a lunatic that turned on people quicker than a crazed snake, kinda like his followers, but his followers were even dumber for believing him despite all the evidence saying otherwise.

I pity you, you really have drunk the kool-aid and now you don't know what direction is up. Everyone that doesn't like Trump apparently doesn't like him because they were told to (by who? Not thought that far ahead yet? Q hasn't given you the answers yet?), yet Trump could tell you that the sky was purple with yellow polka dots and you'd swear it to be the truth. After all, you believe an election was stolen because he said so, and despite no evidence being found months later, you still believe that to be true because Trump told you to.

I do hope you get deprogrammed sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11087220)

.Turkey is Overloaded with Syrian Refugees.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11087229)

Lisa Nandy is making a bigger fool of herself every day. She simply has no idea how the world works

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11087232)

Not everyone follows every piece of news every day ...

What has she said?

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11087212)

Lol.welcome to.my world joey.

Dont flounce after one post, not now I've shown you how it feels to be me:shrug: