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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926026)
Pete asks
Hayden: Do you think aligning with basically everyone has aided or ailed your game?
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It has aided me in the sense that I got to the final two by being in so many alliances, but ailed in the sense that being in so many alliances meant that I was always going to have to betray one in the end which probably has cost me any chance of winning. But I do feel that strategically I put myself in a good position throughout the game which was why I was able to get so far without really being targeted other than one or two rounds. I definitely had a lot of #1 allies, for example I had really good one-on-one relationships with you, Lucas, TomC, LukeB, Shaun and even Cal once all his solid allies had gone (Armand and Samm, who I also get on really well with :laugh:), so I do value all those relationships as being genuine, but as a whole I always had it in the back of my mind thinking what move to make next which would benefit me most, who I would have to vote out from someone who I really get on and work well with, and in the end I kinda just said "sod it" after you were evicted and just decided that I wanted an F3 of Lucas and Shaun because those were the two people other than you who I had been 100% open and honest with, and really would not mind losing to them at all.
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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926096)
Riley asks
Hayden: Hello Hayden, you have been fantastic in the immunity challenges and keeping a target off of your back. My question is, how did you go so long without anyone voting you out of the game? Nobody seemed to want to get you out.
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I'm not really sure tbh, I knew when I signed up for the game that I would probably be targeted early for being quite competitive and strategic in games like this, and the fact that I only had to visit one tribal council pre-merge definitely worked in my favour. Once merge started I saw winning immunities as the only way to keep myself 100% safe, but the first few ones I did pretty badly in, so I made sure to try and ensure that I had a rough idea of how everyone was voting in order to make sure I didn't vote someone off who had no chance of going. I knew that if I voted with the majority in the early stages then I would be ok for a while, but I soon realised that I would be picked off first out of a big group if I just stuck with that the whole time.
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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926096)
Tom C asks
Hayden, as you are aware, I was in an alliance with you since the third task. You may believe that I think you first betrayed my trust when you deliberately voted me out along with Lucas at the final four tribal council. But you’re wrong. I found out you’d told Cal you were his ‘number one ally’, and yet at the next tribal council, you didn’t give the idol to me, nor Cal, but to Lucas. At this point it became clear you were in multiple secret alliances. It is my opinion that integrity and truth are two of the most important things in winning this game, and they are two traits I held true to you until you betrayed me. However, the same cannot be said for you, and you might lose the title for it.
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That's fine, I don't really know what else to say to that tbh other than I disagree that truth is the most important factor to winning this game, since the whole game is about being strategic about who you talk to, what information you give out etc. But everyone interprets the core of the game differently so I get why you view that as the most important.
As for the #1 allies thing, I don't think I'm the only one guilty of that. For example I know you were working with Cal, at one point Shaun, Samm and a few others yet the only one you ever told me about was Samm (and Lucas when we were on the same tribe) so that was partly a reason why I didn't share as much info with you as I was doing at the start of the game since I knew you were PM'ing quite a few different people throughout the game, not just me. Which is fair enough as that's how the game of Survivor is played! :laugh: And I did tell Cal that he was my #1 ally after Pete left, but that was only because I briefly thought Lucas had voted out Pete with Ross, but then I realised that Ross had the two votes power and Lucas actually voted the same way I did :laugh: I did want to keep Cal around for longer though once Armand and Samm had gone because he was basically on his own and it would've been stupid to get rid of him for no reason. But then he started regaining allies and sharing info with other people etc (for example as shown here he obviously PM'd you info about me, e.g. me telling him I was his #1 ally etc.) so that's why I trusted him less again at the end. But I genuinely did think Ross was gonna play his idol on Cal at F5 since I thought Ross would think he was safe due to everyone knowing he had the idol, which is why I idoled Lucas so that if Cal had ben idoled, my one vote for Ross would've sent him home. But that was one of my plans which failed :laugh:
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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926096)
Hayden: How many people were you allied with in this game, and who was your strongest ally?
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Like I said before, I had a few official 'alliances' but most of my 'alliances' were in fact just really good bonds with people I had in the game. For strongest ally I'd probably say Pete just because he was the person I 100% trusted coming into this game and I really wanted him to do well, if not win, so I was gutted when he was idoled out. He proved himself to be a great challenge competitor and was quite strategic so I think he was definitely a strong ally to have. However I think pretty much everyone in the game knew me and him were tight so having Lucas as an ally was really beneficial as well since we went fairly undetected throughout the game and somehow have ended up in the final 2 together :laugh: Our trust built more and more as the game progressed and eventually we worked really well together. In fact the reason for my original flip in the first place was because I knew if I kept voting with the majority I'd have to vote him out soon and I didn't want that.
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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926096)
Ross asks
To both of you, what would you say was your biggest move in the game?
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Definitely flipping the vote at final 9 to make it a 5-4 vote to evict Samm over Tom-C. Firstly, I knew Samm, Cal and Armand would be understanding that it's just a game and that flipping would make it more interesting for both them and myself, but I also knew that from a game point, they would definitely target me at any opportunity they had from that point. What people don't really know is that I actually told Shaun about the vote and we agreed that Shaun would vote with them in order to get more info from them about future votes and stuff, so it was all very calculated on my part :laugh: I knew Samm/Cal/Armand would take each other to F3 so that's why I sent a mass PM to Lucas/Pete/TomC/Ross about evicting Samm and pulling off a blindside so that they would no longer be he majority. IIRC, had I stuck with that alliance, the plan was TomC out 9th, then Ross, then Lucas, and then I probably would've been next after that, finishing 6th. So by flipping with a group of 5 I already helped better my placing by one. It was very much a last-minute, spontaneous risk move on my part but I think it certainly changed the path of the game and in the end not only benefitted myself but a few others as well.
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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses
(Post 8926105)
LukeB asks
Hayden - do you have any regrets?
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Hmm, voting you out was a regret because I genuinely belied you were gonna come after me, so when the big alliance threw your name out as a potential person to be evicted, I went along with it when really I think if you'd stayed you'd probably have been seen as a bigger threat than me and would've made people target me less.
I also regret not playing my idol to save Pete when Ross played his idol (IIRC I was out at the time of tribal so wasn't able to, but if I'd known Ross was playing his idol to get Pete out then I would've used mine on Pete. But in the end I managed to keep hold of it all the way til the final 5 aka its expiry date, so I played it on Lucas to keep him in and avoid a tie.