Also dany going mad hasn’t been confirmed yet so

i thoroughly enjoyed the first 3 episodes, the 4th episode was fine in parts but other parts just had zero credibility based on the character development from the past 7 seasons. For the sea change that occurred, there would have to be something that backed it up, and there wasn't. Ok, it's fantasy and all that, but for it to be a powerful vehicle, it has to be believable and at least 25% of episode 4 was completely unbelievable. I want GoT to be good, my standards are high given previous series, and episode 4 fell quite a bit short for me.

I think the fleet running into Euron with no prior warning was daft... and also, them stood at the gates of King's Landing and not being shot to pieces with arrows was also daft... and a few major gaffs like that can really damage immersion in a show I feel.

yep, i also thought the convo between Tyrion and Varys was completely contrived. Ah Jon Snow ... lets now support him, having followed Dani round the globe for years .... it didnt make sense given she had just saved mankind from certain death

Cersei didnt have them shoot because she wants to lure Dany into destroying the Red Keep, where all the commoners in King's Landing are holding out, so that she can play the hero, given that she hasn't been popular since the whole Sept destruction thing. Also, in the time it takes to kill Dany and her guards, the guards and dragon could have also taken out Cersei. It's the same reason Jon didn't kill Ramsey here

The newest leaks for episode 5 sound SO much better and more detailed since it’s just all focused on that one episode rather than little bits from both of the last episodes. I really don’t know what to believe though, I hope they don’t give this a **** ending.

CAN YOU POST THE LEAKS IF YOURE GONNA MENTION THEN PLeASE

Guys can anyone discussing leaks, even without saying what they are, do it in spoilers because it can become kind of obvious what you're talking about?

Or a whole different thread

or that

i don't personally want to see any leaks on this thread, spoilered or not.

Yeah I agree. Anyone who is interested in them, can you start a leaks thread? Pretty please

Can't believe the NK is back next episode. really looking forward to see how they work his story

Agree about the leaks, just seeing people's reaction to them kinda give away what might be involved in it so a separate thread would be better

Yeah that was very unlike both of them. Pretty much the only reason they now seem to favour Jon over Dany is that he doesn't want the throne and she does

Ah I see a separate thread has been made now thanks :hee:

They won't. Must be silly season for "leaks" for someone to come up with that.

I wasn't being serious.

I don’t want to spoil myself, but part of me wants to read the leaks if they are as bad as being mentioned. At least that way I can expect the crap ending.

i haven't seen the leaks and don't want to see them. At this point, everyone is very polarised having invested in 7+ series, so one persons crap ending could be anothers best ever .... we will see :worry:

As for if it will be a crap ending or not. I don't think any single person is going to be satisfied with the ending simply because of how invested we have been all of these years and it will feel a bit rubbish that it's finished so we will all think oh well that could have been better even though it's probably pretty good. Seems to happen with most programs that end. I also dont want to read any leaks

I would like Arya to survive (although I'm not sure if she will) I don't think I'd be that disappointed in any ending if that happens :hee:

If that's a leak, there's another thread for those now I think Amy

It's not a leak, it's a wish, although it is based off some false leaks, so :shrug: