Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8727993)

I bet that Emma never donated anything

stingy cow

Originally Posted by empire (Post 8727896)

the left wing have thrown in too much apologist style defending to an ideology, that throws gays of roofs, or have them killed in any manner, and the hypocrisy of hillary clinton, and obama to attack donald trump, and not once have they attacked this ideology, or the person who killed in that night club, the liberal westerners, don't see the whole world as one big bad place, they see are planet wrapped up in cotton wool with PC rules, its like when owen jones walked out, on sky news, because his bubble was burst, when jim davidson called brian a shirtlifter, as a joke, the public nearly lynched him, and when winston mckenzie was being interrogated by emma, I thought you are a hypocrite girl, because if he was part of the other ideology, you would never of brought it up, this part of the world has sugarcoated over one thing to another, and that is what's wrong with the left wing.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8727952)

...on a bit of a negative and I think really relevant to what Owen Jones was also saying...is that apparently the restrictions on blood donations in terms of homosexual men, after the massacre were still upheld...blood was obviously desperately needed..(and is always needed..).. but some is refused because of who a person loves and because of their sexuality....there are some things that just couldn't 'happen to any of us', no matter how much sadness etc we may feel and how mush empathy we may feel..we will never actually feel and experience those prejudices/discriminations/those hates, which so many still do...this massacre could not have happened to any of us because it was very specific in it's target...some terrorist attacks could happen to any of us but this isn't one of them...maybe Owen shouldn't have walked out but his frustrations that the hate acted on in the Pulse nightclub and the emotions he must have been feeling in the immediate after-math and that it was just not being understood or acknowledged at all by them...I mean they just didn't get it, that 'any one of us' could not feel that hate and could not have felt prejudices that are still there and still very apparent in society...and then for Julia Hartley-Brewer to assume being any sort of 'spokesperson' for something she completely didn't get at all....


...anyways, we've come a long way as societies, I know with the acceptance of homosexuality...but a startling reminder of how far the journey still has to go...

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8728243)

Strong post as always.

I applauded Owen Jones walking out on the Sky News press review,he was clearly hurting for the victims of this hate massacre, as well as being wound up by them trying to separate this from not only likely being a terrorist crime but also a specifically targeted hate crime against the LGBT section of the community.

I was infuriated at Julia Hartley-Brewer not showing more sensitivity.
Then again overall I am usually disappointed at what she says anyway.

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8728280)

Are we honestly using Jim Davidson's homophobia as an example of how we are supposed to react to Orlando now because dear lord

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8728308)

Who has mentioned Jim Davidson?:shrug: