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Beso 20-07-2021 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11071599)
225 Illegal Migrants arrived
yesterday at Dover.

BBC

That's a very conservative number.

arista 20-07-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11074892)
That's a very conservative number.


Yes but now 430
just yesterday

arista 20-07-2021 09:44 AM

https://e3.365dm.com/21/07/2048x1152...20210720000652

arista 20-07-2021 09:46 AM

https://e3.365dm.com/21/07/2048x1152...20210720002526


Yes Happy days for you
Free housing


Whats wrong with France?

Just 50 of the 430 from yesterday

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than...g-day-12359473.

arista 20-07-2021 11:02 AM




SkyNewsHD
has a Helicopter
spotting them

arista 20-07-2021 12:20 PM

BBC has a soft report
recorded days ago
A reporter on a boat giving water and food to an African
mini boat.

Meanwhile SkyNewsHD
has their Helicopter filming Illegals arriving.

bots 20-07-2021 07:52 PM

France will double the number of police patrolling its beaches as part of a deal with the UK to stem the number of migrants crossing the English Channel.

The UK will pay more than £54m as part of the deal agreed between ministers in London and Paris.

The Home Office said the two countries would also improve intelligence sharing and use better technology to target those who organise the crossings.

arista 20-07-2021 10:08 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...express-nc.png

arista 20-07-2021 10:10 PM

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arista 20-07-2021 10:18 PM

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arista 20-07-2021 11:47 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...6_metro-nc.png

arista 20-07-2021 11:52 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...14_mail-nc.png

arista 21-07-2021 06:07 AM

GMBHD itv
confirmed
Yesterday, 287 Illegal Migrants got to Dover

arista 21-07-2021 07:09 AM

Yesterday
ITV were in the Water
& SkynewsHD filmed with a Helicopter

Today Live on GBnewsHD Great Breakfast
Nigel Farage is reporting Live in the English Channel.

Beso 21-07-2021 07:15 AM

Put them all in jail.

arista 21-07-2021 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11075336)
Put them all in jail.



Yes in Parliament that was Voted in.
So soon they can be Jailed.

Cherie 21-07-2021 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11075287)

Because throwing money at the French worked so well last time :laugh:

Oliver_W 21-07-2021 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11075340)
Because throwing money at the French worked so well last time :laugh:

Obviously something needs to be done, but I'm not sure I trust the French to make good on it!

arista 21-07-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11075340)
Because throwing money at the French worked so well last time :laugh:


Yes just Live
on GBnewsHD
is Live in the English channel


Nigel Farage next to a Boat full of Illegals
he watched the French navy boat
escort them to the UK water side.

That boat has engine trouble &
he says in around 10 mins the UK border force will get to them.


He hear's bigger boats
with 100 are coming soon.


All the Money has changed nothing

Vanessa 21-07-2021 09:35 AM

Thye arrived in Dungeness, Kent..

arista 21-07-2021 11:06 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07...06_964x543.jpg


['Call in the military!': Ex-chief immigration officer
says Border Force is 'operating a migrant collection
service in the Channel' after Calais MP
warns Priti's £54m deal WON'T work - as dozens
more arrive today]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wont-work.html

arista 22-07-2021 11:42 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E64pL-5X...jpg&name=small

arista 22-07-2021 06:13 PM

Another 175 Illegal Migrants have
crossed from France today.

Captain.Remy 22-07-2021 06:39 PM

The French not giving a single **** anymore since Brexit.

ThomasC 22-07-2021 07:05 PM

I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

Captain.Remy 22-07-2021 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11076352)
I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

Because the pandemic hits harder poorer people and makes their life even more miserable in their country than it was before.

ThomasC 23-07-2021 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076395)
Because the pandemic hits harder poorer people and makes their life even more miserable in their country than it was before.

When a lot are criminals? Economic immigrants

Come on let's not be silly.

They would have docked in the first safe country otherwise.

I have no issue whatsoever to someone who is that desperate they feel they have to pay £5,000 for a very dangerous crossing...I empathise. Yes, they should go down legal routes, but that is easier said than done if you really feel your life is in danger..... The issue is that this isn't always the case.

Captain.Remy 23-07-2021 09:53 AM

"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.

Crimson Dynamo 23-07-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11076352)
I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

the weather and in times before they stowed away on lorries but that now has been stopped so the easy way for the traffickers is boats

and lets not pretend this is a criminal racket using gullible people who have been hoodwinked by criminals gangs

but the people on the boats do know they are also breaking uk LAW

arista 23-07-2021 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076588)
"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.


You are wrong photographs are the Truth.


The Minister for Calais
(who said they are leaving all over the coast of the French side)
was live on Farage last night
GBnewsHD


He was told how a French Police ship
near the coast
did nothing to stop a boat full of Illegal Migrants
in low waters, leaving the French side.


Thats the Problem
YOU take our £54million
and are too slow to make changes,

Captain.Remy 23-07-2021 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11076615)
You are wrong photographs are the Truth.


The Minister for Calais
(who said they are leaving all over the coast of the French side)
was live on Farage last night
GBnewsHD


He was told how a French Police ship
near the coast
did nothing to stop a boat full of Illegal Migrants
in low waters, leaving the French side.


Thats the Problem
YOU take our £54million
and are too slow to make changes,

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

ThomasC 23-07-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076588)
"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.

Well tell me the reasons as to why they wouldn't?

If you are that afraid for your life.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...)%20population.

"Albanian nationals make up the largest number of foreign national offenders in UK prisons, totalling 16% of the foreign national offenders (FNO) population."

Look at the pictures, where's all the women and children?

Anyway, what?

ThomasC 23-07-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076640)
arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

What about the data that isn't collected?

Yes, we are talking about people here.

And I defended those who are seeking asylum from persecution etc. I also said that if that was the case and you were that desperate that you would stop at the first safe country you arrived at.

The Slim Reaper 23-07-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076640)
arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

Easy, tiger :laugh:

ThomasC 23-07-2021 11:58 AM

To deny that some of these people don't come here to cause crime, gang rivalry, take benefits etc is just naive in my opinion.

Saying that it doesn't happen or the data doesn't suggest that is just silly. We're so PC which could be the reason the data is not supplied or it's just too hard to gather. They're illegal for a reason so it's going to be difficult to track these things.

I even empathised earlier on about how someone would feel that in danger they felt they had to seek aslyum illegally and not through the proper channels..........BUT I don't sympathise with those who do it for other reasons, I also don't think we should be paying to have them brought onto our shores when they have bypassed a safe country already.

arista 23-07-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076640)
arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.


Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)


And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

ThomasC 23-07-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11076602)
the weather and in times before they stowed away on lorries but that now has been stopped so the easy way for the traffickers is boats

and lets not pretend this is a criminal racket using gullible people who have been hoodwinked by criminals gangs

but the people on the boats do know they are also breaking uk LAW

Yes, that makes sense.

Captain.Remy 23-07-2021 12:08 PM

When did I deny that some come here to cause crime? I asked for data to back up the "A lot of".

Again, the "a lot of" is subjective compared to total illegal immigrants that are stopped at the borders.
And again, "Albanian nationals make up the largest number of foreign national offenders in UK prisons, totalling 16% of the foreign national offenders (FNO) population." A part of it probably entered the UK with a legal status. So we're not just talking about illegal immigration here. Again, not saying it does not exist but let's try to be more neutral.

Also, the "if you were that desperate that you would stop at the first safe country you arrived at." act is tired. You don't know these people. You don't live their lives. They risk their lives to get to UK for a reason, possibly because of the language or because they already have family there. Don't try to put yourself in their shoes giving uncoherent advice.

Captain.Remy 23-07-2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11076652)
Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)


And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

It's not France's fault UK is more attractive than France in those people's eyes. You should be grateful about it.

arista 23-07-2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11076662)
It's not France's fault UK is more attractive than France in those people's eyes. You should be grateful about it.


Yes but in the Future
we will Pay France for every Illegal we return on the same day.



It is the only way to solve this
France sets a fee per illegal we return.


A new Agreement
First of its kind.


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