delph will take gareth judas knob wanker dickhead tits barrys place in the england team soon enough, give it a couple of years

Give it a couple of years..

And Wilshire will have a perm place in the England squad..

Wilshere will be a better version of Joe Cole

I think he plays a bit like gerrard.

Will have his spot in a few years, but probs will have taken someone elses before.

After the boxing day games, heres what my table looks like;

http://i28.tinypic.com/2ld91s8.jpg

Thats a quality table...

Other than...

Fulham being in relegation zone? i cant see it.. i think they are a hard team to score against .. cant see - 23 on goal diff..

Yah, maybe i got fulham wrong. they proved to be a good side under roy Hodgson last season, maybe a mid-table finish for them

Fulham will start going downhill after christmas, they don't have the biggest squad and they'll have to play at least an extra 15 games this season because of the new layout of the Uefa Cup, so can't see them doing quite aswell (unless they don't get far in Europe).

If they get knocked out of europe early im sure they can finish 7th - 10th.

I think if they stay in it quite a while i think they will finish like 9th - 14th,

Can't see them struggling relegation, they are a good side, tired or not...

so they should go all out for it in Europe, cos they arent really playing for anything in the PL. the best they will get in the PL is 10th/11th but probably nearer 14th/15th

Lost 2 - 0 to valencia.

They played their full side including David Silva and David Villa.


We played.

Eboue instead of sagna.
Djourou instead of silvestre or vermalean.
Diaby played, not our best and first game back for injury..
and we didnt play eduardo and played bendter instead.

So we were without

Sagna
Vermalean
Rosicky
Nasri
Eduardo


Still, no excuse, we should be able to beat a team like valencia.


Liverpool also lost. 2 - 1

To their defence, carragher was off the pitch when the first goal was scored.
But they fielded a pretty much first team.

Everton boss Moyes confirms offer for Arsenal's Senderos
08.08.09 | tribalfootball.com

Everton have made an offer for Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos.

After last night's friendly victory over Malaga, Everton boss David Moyes confirmed a bid for Senderos is still being considered by the Londoners.

However, he added that a deal could be close.

i have a strong feeling this season will be a flop (in the PL) for Man utd and liverpool - with a Chelsea, arsenal 1,2.

Arsenal have upper their offer of 6m for Chamakh to 8m.

A deal looks close.

^^ Skrtel and Agger out injured aswell, Carragher off for the 2 goals, so we had 2 youngsters as our centre backs. We did actually play better than them, just they made the most of their chances and we wasted ours.

Torres also strained his ankle or something, should find out if it's serious or no tomorrow- along with Carragher.

senderos was pretty bad, i dont know why they would want him

I think liverpool will struggle first game now...

No Agger, Skrtel, possibly no Carragher.
No Aqulani no Riera..

Tottenham go hard at the top 4 for some reason..

Will be tough.

Arsene Wenger has cooled on the recruitment of Patrick Vieira, which was being seriously considered last week. Instead, he will urge Robin van Persie and Cesc Fabregas to step up as the leaders in the dressing room and in big games rather than turn to the 33-year-old former captain.

But Arsenal can expect to sign Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh, even if the deal runs right to transfer deadline day, as with Andrey Arshavin. Arsenal have bid £8million
and, while Bordeaux want £15m, they know that, with just one year left on Chamakh’s contract and the striker determined to move to Arsenal, the price is falling.

Arsenal will also look at add a centre-half to replace Kolo Toure but Fulham supporters can rest easy: Brede Hangeland is not on their list

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz0Ne89VQQx



I was expecting us to not sign Viera...

But Hangeland?? Who will we sign since he said we will get a replacement for toure..

Hangeland is good..

Imo.. Next season we should sell diaby.. hes not good enough for Arsenal i think..

And silvestre and djourou.. to old (silvestre) just not talented enough (djourou)..

Torres and the team are fine.. We just giving hope for the other clubs, trust me. :thumbs2:

Tottenham 1 - 3 Liverpool.:thumbs2:

Andyman..

You doing premiership and carling cup prediction game?

moyes knows how to get the best out of players
just like he has done with, jo, arteta, cahil, lescott, jagielka and howard

Yeah put me down for both. :thumbs:

Oh my - we were fecking woeful tonight. I hope that's not a sign of things to come. The same rubbish we saw last season i.e failing to clear balls in the area and inept defending at set pieces reared its ugly head again tonight. We also saw our inablity to create chances when the opposition harries and pressures us taking us out of our passing game.

We have no plan B unfortunately, and I fear a lot of teams have found us out now. I'm glad we lost - maybe Wenger will now sign some ****ing players because we can't go into the new season with virtually the same squad minus Adebayor and Toure. Not to mention that Nasri and Rosicky are both sidelined. *sigh* :rolleyes:

Your gonna have to fill both in, i stickied the threads..

Carling cup must be filled by tomorrow at 7pm.