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its so stupid when the tries to crawl through the little hole in the van after Sidney :joker:

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Originally Posted by 'Conor (Post 4257124)

its so stupid when the tries to crawl through the little hole in the van after Sidney :joker:

Hahaha true! He too big for dat. Silly boy

I said a while back I was writing a Scream 4 review for a friend's blog but had trouble posting it. One or two people said they might read it so here it is anyhow if anyone's interested...

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This One's A Screamer! A Review of "Scream 4"

What’s your favourite scary movie? Is it Halloween? You know, the one with the guy with the white mask who just sort of walks around and stalks the baby-sitters? Or is it A Nightmare On Elm Street? The one where the guy had knives for fingers? Or, is it Scream? The definitive postmodern horror where the characters were very much self-aware they were in a movie? Whatever the case, its undeniable Scream influenced a number of less favourable slasher movies and now, almost fifteen years after the original, Scream 4 has finally arrived to seemingly mixed reviews. If you have not yet seen this movie you may be wondering; is it as sharp and cutting as its predecessors? Or, is it simply yet another dumb movie and a painful reminder of the rotting state of the contemporary horror genre?

The appeal of the original Scream movies is they’re not your typical scary movies wherein a silent, unstoppable superhuman killer meaninglessly slays dumb, shallow, oversexed, intoxicated teenagers portrayed by unknown actors. Written by The Vampire Diaries Executive producer, Kevin Williamson, and directed by A Nightmare on Elm Street creator and proclaimed ‘master of suspense’, Wes Craven, 1996’s Scream completely deconstructed the clichés of the slasher subgenre, mercilessly satirizing it, and yet cunningly conforming to a few of its conventions. Scream is set in a world not dissimilar to our own with recognisable existing horror movies, and so when a slick killer, known as Ghostface, starts slicing and dicing the students of Woodsboro High, the characters use their preconceived knowledge of these horror movies in order to survive their ordeal. The casting of such high profile actors as Drew Barrymore and Henry Winkler, and rising stars Neve Campbell, Courtney Cox, David Arquette, Jamie Kennedy, Rose McGowan, Mathew Lillard, Skeet Ulrich and Liev Schreiber, stamped Scream with a difference to the slew of flagging horror movies from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s. One moment it would have you laughing at the subtle in-jokes, the next you would be on the edge of your seat with terror. Then there’s Ghostface, himself an amalgamation of prior iconic horror movie antagonists. He fashions a terrifying mask similarly to Leatherface, Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees of their respective Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween and Friday the 13th franchises, yet unlike them he is not mute. Voiced eerily to perfection by Roger L. Jackson, Ghostface projects as much charismatic flare as A Nightmare on Elm Street’s Freddy Krueger, when he torments his victims with life-or-death scary movie trivia questions via the phone. The changing of identities underneath the mask in each subsequent film is what also differentiates Ghostface from all the rest. In each film it’s a different person or people utilising the mask to conceal their identity, so each Scream movie entices an air of mystery, compelling audiences to guess who are the perpetrators? And who are the victims? Craven and Williamson returned with the 1997 follow-up Scream 2, which successfully upped the ante with more scares, more laughs, more movie references and more big name stars. Whereas 2000’s Scream 3, also directed by Craven, but this time penned by Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen scribe Ehren Kruger, became so painfully tongue-in-cheek with in-jokes and contained less horror movie references that it appeared to become what the series initially set out to stab at, almost just another ordinary horror movie.

So, over a decade has passed and Craven is reunited with Williamson providing most of the script, and Ehren Kruger for additional rewrites, to unearth the Scream series in a bid, like the original, to resuscitate the decaying horror genre. But what’s the focus this time? Scream already cut through the horror movie, Scream 2 – the horror sequel, and Scream 3 was the generic trilogy. This time around, in the most original idea since, well – the original, Scream 4 hacks away at Hollywood’s recent trend of remakes. The stylized title 'SCRE4M' is an evident statement that by substituting the ‘4’ in place of the ‘A’ this film satirizes the remake but is in fact a genuine continuation from the previous three films. Also up for slaughtering is the ‘torture porn’ subgenre the industry has become accustomed to with the Saw franchise, which compensates genuine suspense with tactless gore. And whereas the original movie incorporated the telephone as a new age weapon, Scream 4 explores the dangers of social network messaging, mobile phone technology and internet videos. Surely, with its attention transfixed on the remake and, in this case, a similar story to the first Scream movie, there’s an expected danger that, like Scream 3, Scream 4’s self-referential satire could collapse the franchise and bury it for good? Not so. Scream 4 now overshadows Scream 3 as the funniest entry. However, the humour comes instead from the characters focus on one another or generally the conventions of the scary movie, akin to the original, whilst the homages to the first film are actually cleverly replicated at various points – but with a difference. A direct example sees one teen girl attempting to crawl away from the new Ghostface killer in her garage. If you’ve seen 1996’s Scream you’ll remember that Rose McGowan’s character, Tatum Riley, is in a similar situation and suffers a gruesome fate when she becomes stuck in a dog door embedded in to the garage door and thus leaving her neck to crush as she rises, colliding with the roof of the garage. This time, the garage door is already open, yet the killer closes it, crushing on to the new girl’s spine. The result is, whilst the first film challenges your expectations of the standard horror film, the fourth intricately challenges your expectations of how it’ll execute similar scenarios to the first Scream. The self-referencing only adds to the suspense rather than the humour. This might be effective viewing for Scream fans, and can still serve as enthralling to newer audiences, however part of Scream 4’s charm is inwardly looking back on the suspense of the previous movies. Thus it is more aimed at the fans of the earlier films.

Living up to the standards of the original trilogy, and to mirror characters from the first movie, Scream 4 introduces a fresh array of established stars and new talents – as more lambs to the slaughter. The intended new star of the franchise is portrayed by Emma Roberts, daughter of Eric Roberts, and niece of Julia Roberts. Her character – Jill Roberts – is the young cousin of former Scream tortured protagonist Sidney Prescott, portrayed once more by Neve Campbell. Also returning are real-life estranged couple Courtney Cox and David Arquette in their respective roles as ambitious journalist Gale Weathers and goofy Deputy Dwight ‘Dewey’ Riley. Accompanying Roberts and the series’ regulars as a handful of potential Ghostface suspects and victims are Heroes star Hayden Panettiere, Signs actor and brother of Macaulay Culkin, Rory Culkin, Saw II’s Erik Knudsen, Grindhouse’s Marley Shelton, Battlestar Gallactica’s Mary McDonnell, Community’s Alison Brie, The O.C.’s Adam Brody, Anthony Anderson of Scary Movie 3 and Scary Movie 4, and up-and-coming stars Nico Tortorella and Marielle Jaffe. And if that wasn’t enough, expect some painfully humorous and shockingly terrifying guest appearances from Veronica Mars star Kristen Bell, True Blood and X-Men actress Anna Paquin, Pretty Little Liars’ Lucy Hale, 90210’s Shanae Grimes, Friday Night Lights’ Aimee Teegarden, and Britt Robertson of Dan in Real Life. Scream 4 certainly sports an all-star cast to generate enough buzz to match the earlier Scream movies, however a number of these talents sadly fall underused, merely sacrificed to Ghostface just as they arouse suspicion. As every Scream movie starts with the suspenseful murder of a high profile character or actor we won’t spoil who snuffs it first – or how. All that needs to be said is it effectively relieves you of your anxious laughing with a few hilarious moments which bare similarities to the movie-within-a-movie setup of Scream 2, before mercilessly offing some defenceless young characters in as tragic an ordeal as the first Scream did to Drew Barrymore. And then there’s the identity of the killer and the final scenes which is a genius cynical statement about Hollywood’s reliability on remakes and the expectations of the passing of the baton between this series’ surviving trio and the array of new characters. With so many stars appearing in Scream 4 there’s no obvious guarantee which one is the prime suspect in contrast to Scream 2’s Laurie Metcalf. And with Campbell’s role significantly not as reduced as it was in Scream 3, the big reveal and backstory don’t appear as thinly stretched and inconceivable. Thus the final act of Scream 4 is as finely executed as the first Scream.

With the focus primarily being on recapturing the story and essence of the first Scream with the inclusion of a larger, newer cast, does the plot develop from where Scream 3 left off? Or, despite its different take on familiar situations, is Scream 4 simply retracing old ground and setting up further instalments for the newer characters? Rest assured, with the long-awaited return of Sidney, Gale and Dewey the plot expands on their roles since we last saw them a decade earlier. Scream 3 finished with Gale and Dewey reuniting as a couple and becoming engaged, having seen their romance initiate in Scream, and blossom in Scream 2 before an amicable break-up prior to the third film due in part to Gale’s burning ambition to become a successful Hollywood reporter. This time around, it’s Dewey who’s career has advanced as he has become Sheriff of Woodsboro since settling down to married life, whereas Gale is utterly bored and dissatisfied with her marriage and her life. With the couple’s relationship strained further with the presence of flirty Deputy Judy Hicks (Shelton) working alongside Dewey, and Gale’s burning ambition to revitalise her ‘tarnished brand’ with the assistance of high school movie geeks Charlie and Robbie (Knudsen and Culkin), Dewey and Gale effectively spend less time with one another and more time integrating with the newer characters. And then there’s Sidney who was convinced the nightmares were at last behind her after Scream 3, that she literally left the door open - a big deal, given the past traumas she’d endured. After discovering her mother’s raped and mutilated body; wrongfully accusing her mother’s lover of the deed; having a book published about said murder; witnessing her high school friends slain around her; being pressurised in to losing her virginity to a psychopath; accepting her mother was adulterous; having another book published in addition to a movie being made about her prior ordeals; the murders of her college friends; trust issues with her college sweetheart and his subsequent death; and the mental torture from sadistic Tarantino fan, Mickey (Timothy Olyphant), is it any wonder that by film 3 she was living as a recluse, in isolation, adopting an alias and working as a phone operator for women’s crisis counselling? Well, as implied at the end of Scream 3, Sidney has overcome her trepidations and has reinvented herself as a confident survivor by publishing a self-help book titled ‘Out of Darkness’. Coincidentally, or a deliberate PR stunt by her publisher, Rebecca Walters (Brie), the last stop of Sid’s book tour is at her home town of Woodsboro on the anniversary of the initial murders where she stays with her young cousin Jill (Roberts) and maternal aunt Kate (McDonnell). By directly drawing Sidney in to Jill’s world it makes Jill all the more relatable and likeable as a new intended franchise carrier.

So moving on, who’s out to get Jill and Sidney? Could it be Jill’s creepy ex-boyfriend Trevor (Tortorella) who’s fascinatingly similar to Skeet Ulrich’s killer Billy Loomis of the first movie? Could it be either – or even both – of the new film geeks in contrast to Jamie Kennedy’s original geek Randy Meeks? What of Jill’s best friends Kirby (Panettiere) and/or Olivia (Jaffe) as a difference to Rose McGowan’s Tatum character? Or Deputy Hicks who fascinates over Dewey, dislikes Gale and went to Woodsboro High with Sidney? Or the two buddy cops with distinct TV and film knowledge, Hoss and Perkins (Brody and Perkins)? The suspects and victims are plenty meaning you can expect yet more suspense and humour, but also in light of the recent torture porn phase, more gore! The death scenes are not as elaborate or confusing as say the Saw franchise, rather in keeping with the Scream series, they’re pretty basic stabbing assaults – only with a wickedly gory humour at times.

All in all, Scream 4 is a highly entertaining slasher movie certainly worthier than the recent spew of remakes and torture porn it satirizes. Craven and Williamson expand on the roles of the three primary survivors of the original trilogy and successfully correlate their stories with a larger, newer generation for Ghostface to pick off making Scream 4 both a starting ground for newer audiences and more so a direct continuation of the series for Scream fans. The multitalented recognisable cast are fresh and welcome additions which embody the exact cutting edge idealism the first two Scream movies evoked. Additionally, whilst their celebrity status is on a par this means no star was evidently picked to portray the opening scene victims or the killer. This combined with an original story heavily based on the original movie, yet with unexpected plot twists and comprising new media technology furthermore rejuvenates the Scream franchise and somewhat restores faith in the horror genre. Let’s hope if the rumoured Scream 5 and Scream 6 happen the series will continue to be imaginative, scary, funny and clever. Akin to the innovative original movie, almost fifteen years earlier, “It all began with a scream over 9-1-1 and ended in a bloodbath that has rocked the town of Woodsboro,” - and its audiences alike.

the actual effort of reading all of that -_-

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Originally Posted by 'Conor (Post 4259148)

the actual effort of reading all of that -_-

Lol, no one actually has to. Thought you might though seeing as you're one of the bigger Scream fans round here. Oh well :(

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Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian (Post 4259305)

Lol, no one actually has to. Thought you might though seeing as you're one of the bigger Scream fans round here. Oh well :(

:shocked:

-feels ashamed, reads.-

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Originally Posted by 'Conor (Post 4259308)

:shocked:

-feels ashamed, reads.-

Emotional blackmail ftw. They call me Mac Hiavellian for a reason ;)

Someone on here claimed the radio 5 live gave SCRE4M a bad review - no they didn't, they said it was better than the 3rd, maybe as good as the 2nd but it lacked the shock factor in terms of the killings because they only used knifes - which I 100% agree with.

Saw this on IMDB

thought it would be fun to do on here, Whats your top 6 quotes from each movie :love:

SCREAM:
1)Ghostface: "Cause I wanna know who i'm looking at!"
2)Tatum: "Please don't kill me Mr Ghostface, I wanna be in the sequel!"
3)Stu: "My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me!"
4)Billy: "You hear that Stu i think she wants a motive."
5)Gale: "Kenny, i know that your about 50 pounds over weight, but when i say hurry, please interprute that that means move your FAT TOUBEVLARD ASS NOW!"
6)Stu: "You hit me with the phone dick!!"

SCREAM 2:
1)Maureen: "Bitch hang the phone up and *69 his ass, damn!"
2)CiCi: "I'm sober sister, i need to be here incase a drunk sister calls and needs a ride."
3)Ghostface: "Do you want to die tonight Cici!"
4)Joel: "Look, gutted, slashed, the guy aint in the union no more!"
5)Mickey: "NOW WHOS DOING THAT, i gotta have a partner Sid, suprise cameo just for you."
6)Sidney: "You forgot one thing about Billy Loomis.. I ****ing killed him!"

SCREAM 3: (Jennifer owned this movie)
1)Jennifer: "My. Lawyer. Liked. That."
2)Jennifer: "Your obsessed with her! AND YOUR OBSESSED WITH HER DAUGHTER!"
3)Ghostface: "And its called Sarah gets skewered like a ****ing pig."
4)Jennifer: "Wow Roman, remind me not to sleep with him again!"
5)Sidney & Kincaid: "Whats your favourite scary movie?" "My life." "Mine too."
6) cant think of anymore..

SCREAM 4: (will have 7 because i only had 5 in scream 3)

1)Sherrie, Trudie & Ghostface\: "I wanna cut through your neck until i feel bone!!" "Who is it?" "..Its for you!"
2)Rebecca: "**** me wow!"
3)Rebecca: "All those downtrodden little ****s, that just need a light at the end of their tunnel so they don't jump off a bridge!"
4)Chloe: "Now shut the **** up and watch the movie."
5)Ghostface: "You better start running!"
6)Ghostface: "haha i've got time, its you that doesn't"
7)Gale: "Can you please tell Betty Crocker.."

There's so many. I've realised even though Gale's probably my favourite character I like other peopel's quotes more.

Scream:

1) Tatum: "You only hear that Richard Gere gerbil story so many times until you have to start believing it."
2) Ghostface: "Cos I wanna know who I'm looking at."
3) Bathroom Bitch: "And it *******ed her up royally. Think about it, her mother's death leaves her disturbed and hostile in a cruel and inhumane world. She's delusional. "Where's God," etc. Completely suicidal. One day she snaps. She wants to kill herself but she realizes that teen suicide is out this year and homicide is a much healthier, therapeutic expression."
4) Billy: "That woman was a slut-bag ***** who flashed her sh!t all over town like she was Sharon Stone or something."
5) Randy: "I never thought I'd be so happy to be a virgin."
6) Himbry: "You make me so sick. Your entire havoc-inducing, thieving, whoring generation disgusts me."

Scream 2:

1) Joel: "I'm gonna get some donuts, some Prozac, see if I can find some crack, Special K, X... not Malcom, and I'll be back when y'all start talking about somethin' a little more "Saved By The Bell"-ish!"
2) Mrs Loomis: "What did you say? Was that a negative, disparaging remark about my son? About my Billy?"
3) Gale: "Hey, you'd better check your conscience at the door sweetie. I'm not here to be loved."
4) Mickey: "You should really deal with your trust issues Sid: I mean, poor Derek. He's completely innocent and such a nice boy too. He's bright and funny and handsome. Decent singing voice. And he was going to be a doctor. This is just the kinda boy you'd like to take home to mom. If you had a mom."
5) Joel: "Gale, gutted, slashed, the guy ain't in the union no more."
6) Sorority Sister: "This is weird, isn't it? To think this fuss is all because of you. I mean, not directly, but in some six degrees of Kevin Bacon-way."

Scream 3:

1) Tyson: "LL Cool J is Shakespearean in the park."
2) Jennifer: "You! Like I'm ever gonna win an award playing you!"
3) Angelina: "I did not ****** that pig Milton to get a leading role just to die here with second rate celebrities like you two!"
4) Bianca: "I was up for Princess Leia. I was this close. So, who gets it? The one who sleeps with George Lucas."
5) Jennifer: "You're obsessed with her! And you're obsessed with her DAUGHTER!"
6) Wallace: "Well in that case, I'm gonna go dust for fingerprints with Jane Paulie."

Scream 4:

1) Sid: "Don't ****** with the original!"
2) Ghostface: "I'm not an app."
3) Gale: "I'm about fifteen seconds from revitalising your face with my tarnished brand."
4) Rebecca: "All those downtrodden little ****s, that just need a light at the end of their tunnel so they don't jump off a bridge!"
5) Perkins: "****** Bruce Willis!"
6) Chloe: "It's not aliens or zombies or little asian ghost girls. There's something real about a guy with a knife who just snaps."

Scream 4 is out on DVD/Blu Ray - August 22nd ;)

can't wait :amazed:

Special features will include:
Scream 4: The Making of Featurette
Alternate Opening :amazed: :amazed: :amazed:
Extended Ending
Deleted Scenes
Gag Reel

This is the alternate opening from a guy who went to see the test screening:

Spoiler:

Can't wait to see the alternate opening :amazed:

its apparently a lot shorter than the actual opening :suspect:

OMG :amazed: :amazed: :amazed:

2 Days before my Birthday aswell.
I was expecting an October release, OMG :amazed:

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Originally Posted by 'Conor (Post 4455660)

its apparently a lot shorter than the actual opening :suspect:

Maybe they'll cut out 'Stab 6/7' parts?

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4455666)

OMG :amazed: :amazed: :amazed:

2 Days before my Birthday aswell.
I was expecting an October release, OMG :amazed:

Its out 4th October in the states :thumbs:

no there still in it, but think about it its only a short chase with Marnie. With Jenny it was running through house falling downstairs, crawling out garage, so maybe they used the other opening because its longer

Alternative ending :love:

I always wondered why this never happened in the film

http://scream-trilogy.net/wp-content...om-568x423.jpg

thats from the alternate opening Marc

and btw its the same ending, just extended.

Oops I knew that, I read that, I thought that.. but yet I typed it wrong :laugh:

Word has it the UK Release of Scream won't feature ANY features, such as Alternate opening/ending, Deleted scenes, etc, etc.

We have to wait for the full release in U.S to get them.

If this is true, I am fuming!!

There will undoubtedly be special features, you've probably just read about the single disc version or something.