I mean, fair play if he no longer feels up to it but announce it end of series, not mid series when we are 3-0 down and need our experienced players more than ever

Jumped before he was pushed I reckon, think he was gonna be dropped for next test and chose to get out now, I love the guy and he's an amazing bowler and has been amazing for us last few years, but retiring immediately now is poor

Watson FINSHED his career you could not make this stuff up TBH

Watson is a bit of a twat as well mind, even most the Aussies dont like him

Twatto does his part to make this Aussie team the most entertaining in history

BRB his constant sledging even when he is scoring no runs
BRB getting out to a **** dismissal every time he gets in
BRB said slumped reaction after getting out

He is right up there with Warner in the legend stakes

Best thing about him is when you always hear him go "oh no" on the stump mic as he edges one even before its caught

He has to be the most negative bowler I have ever seen. Never seems like he wan't to bowl and when he just strolls back to his mark every ball ****ing love that guy

Do I not like that

Monty showing balls Barbie could only dream of having watching him **** his pants everytime Mitch runs in is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen

Root needs to be moved from 3. He is THE MAIN BATTING ISSUE he sets the negative pace thoughout the whole batting line up

PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Siddle playing a drive off the last ball of the day with your team being 8 down how can you not love this team

Aus bat nearly all day and end on 164-9, what a pathetic, boring team

Just a shame it's taken till the 4th test for them to be exposed

England's over rate PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even when there up top there still playing negative

Fair play to the Aussie curators they could have took England's lead and just picket 5 pitches that totally suited there play (in this case 5 bouncy pace pitches) yet they have provided and even enough series in terms of pitches 2 of which including this have suited England more

Which makes the battering even more funny

The LK knowledge broght to the forefront once again

Thanks Lyon

PMSL When you thought it could not get any more Hu milting this tour will go down at the most humiliating in history

Can't believe how badly we have managed to mess this one up

Cook with that legendary captaincy

Picks Monty for his bowling then has Root bowl ahead of him PMSL

Never seen an england team so negative.
Petersen for captain. Cook should of been shoving monty down australias throats. Not a bloody part-time bowler?

This is why england will never prosper in any sport:joker:

Kevin would be a worse captain that Cook TBH purely cause no one in the dressing room likes him

Think Barbie is probs the best man for the job

No good captains in this England team, Broady is a possibility but still too young and arrogant plus he's a bowler.. Bell maybe but then not sure he really wants it or is up to it

England needs a complete overhaul, last couple of years has disguised that we're not as good as we think we are. Watch India-South Africa going on atm and you can see how strong those two sides are, we're not near that. The England team for the next series in 2015 will be a lot different to this one

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New era same old International 11

Ballance deserves a go definitely, would have preferred Carberry to miss out instead of Root though, think Carbs has showed he can't cut it as a test opener and Root is the future.

Dropping Monty is risky as well, Borthwick can be a bit all over the place apparently, big ask for him to be the main spinner on his debut

Root was YOUR MAIN BATTING PROBLEM. Him coming in and stinking the place up at 3 set the tone throughout the rest of your batting line up unacceptable his strike rate

Root has at least had one good innings and has shown how much ability he has in previous series, I think confidence is his main problem atm. And at his age it's obvious he's gonna be in and around the England team for the next decade, Carberry is 33, it's now or never for him and I don't think he's shown that he can cut it

Root is a bum his one good innings you hinted at he should have been out of 3 separate occasions how can the future of your team be a player who will be utterly useless on half the world map cause he can't play the bounce. Carbberry is another bum BUT has earned his right to stay ahead of EVERY OTHER batter in the team

MTVN what do you think of the continued selection of players from around the world???

He has already scored runs in India and NZ, played the bounce well in that one good innings of his, unfair to judge him too harshly on this series when none of the batsmen have performed. Plus his off spinners would be useful now that we only have Borthwick as a spinner

And I really don't care tbh lol, they've all come up through the English system and meet the criteria

I'm judging him in England where he was also useless don't let one innings where he should have been out of 3 separate occasions fool you. If your going to be scoring at a run every 30 balls you need to be averaging at least 50 because the pressure your putting on your fellow batters batting that way is immense

I think it's disgusting tbh and a big problem how can you expect players to play for your country to the death when they are from another country silly tbh