same :worry: i don't get the hate/indifference

I liked it, but it's redundant for them to be using clowns again. With a name like Cult, they should've come up with something more interesting. But I guess they are trying to draw connections between seasons now.

Kathy and Angela were needed

I still think AHS should've done their own fictional election with a cult working behind the scenes of the White House. Sarah Paulson could've played one of the presidential candidates,

Only if she's reprising Audrey tbqh!

Just watched it and it was ****ing WOEFUL. If the rest of the series is anything like the first episode than Freakshow will no longer be the worst season.

The writing is terrible and the message and the meanings it's trying to portray are both basic and badly done. Everything is spelled out using overly unsubtle character archetypes. Sarah Paulson is the overly fearful representation of the stereotypical left while Evan Peters is the radicalised right and it beats you over the head with this for the entire hour just to make sure you understand that even though it's blatantly obvious. It's dumb and the writing assumes that it's audience is dumb and needs it spelled out for them. It's just pretentious and nowhere near as clever, groundbreaking or interesting as the writers think it is.

It's utterly boring. You can tell that Ryan Murphy's beyond caring for this show anymore when it's ACS that's getting the awards so much so that this episode just felt like ACS with some 'scary' clowns thrown in for good measure.

Complete trash, unless there's an upturn and quick this might be the first season that I don't bother finishing.

I was thinking this.

I saw the first pictures and teaser for season 2 Versace earlier and it just seems to have more production value about it.

AHS is thrown together with not much effort in comparison.

Look at the difference from Murder House to Asylum in casting, sets, story etc.

Nowadays, it's just like "Oh bring Twisty back! Give Sarah a jumper and tell her to scream! OH Evan does a good villain get him back! Right guys, I'm off to actually put some effort in on Crime Story".

It's a shame. The show could thrive with some injection of actual creativity.

Netflix has just picked up two seasons of a new show by Ryan Murphy called "Ratched" starring Sarah Paulson

http://deadline.com/2017/09/ryan-mur...st-1202162878/

I think this could be the end of Sarah in AHS

Not sure she'll be able to juggle AHS8, ACS3 and also Ratched

Also, they're advertising Versace. I thought Hurricane Katrina was next?

Ryan Murphy has ADHD when it comes to focussing on projects.

They switched Versace and Katrina

oh mess. nobody cared for climate change?

Idk but they haven't even wrote it yet lmao

The whole original premise has changed and it's being based from a different book

Oh I read somewhere that Katrina would air in February and Versace would air straight after :skull: Feud gone done fuqed everything up?

That was the original plan

I think Versace will be released in Feb and Katrina won't be until 2019

I forgot about Feud. :skull:

Which shows is Murphy actually involved with and which does he pass on to lackeys?

AHS is his main one I think, but then Brad Falchuk probably does the day-to-day showrunning

He writes and directs on ACS/Feud but I don't think he is heavily involved

I didn't like s5, didn't know s6 existed, but I started s7 15 minutes ago and I'm loving it so far.

S6 :love:

Was the clown in the back of Sarah's car meant to be Scathach from Roanoke? It kind of looked like her.

You should honestly watch S6 if you haven't, it's a return to form that, so far, this season has squandered.

Definitely will, I forgot how much I love this! I might try to give S5 another go first though now its on Netflix

Sarah's going to be wasted this season if this character is all there is for her, it's confusing though, didn't Ryan Murphy say that Sarah and Evan's characters would be involved in a love story? I just don't see it happening with these characters unless Ryan goes full Hotel and just throws whatever at the wall and hope it sticks.

maybe legend Adina can save it?

Apparently he was being ironic.

Or changes his mind every 5 minutes resulting in a disjointed and uneven series.

I kid of course. :)