Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469812)

I have read the MJ fan sites.

Regardless of what Chandlers dad was or was not, there was not only Chandler.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469830)

As I said, I totally understand some will disbelieve the men. But, I don;t understand how on earth the documentary could make anyone who previously thought he was guilty, sure of his innocence D:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10469849)

I showed my mum things to show how biased it was.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10464431)

People don't want to believe because they like his music imo

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10469872)

I don't like his music, never been a fan tbh, still don't believe his accusers.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469871)

Right, but if she previously thought he was guilty, how would a biased documentary being made on the topic change her mind? I can't make any sense of that at all and am genuinely trying to.

Thats kind of like saying.. I just saw a new documentary about OJ that was sensationalized and may have been untrue in parts. As such, I now think OJ is innocent.

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10469888)

I mean I could ask her when she gets home if you are genuinely interested. She definitely agreed with me that Wade Robson is a liar though.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469897)

I actually am, as it makes no logical sense to me at all.

Makes sense she would not believe them. makes sense she thinks its biased. Makes sense maybe she thinks it shouldn't have been shown. Makes sense that she thinks Wade is outright lying. But I cannot make any sense at all of thinking he was guilty prior to this documentary, then watching this documentary making someone forget whatever made them think he was guilty to start with, and thinking he is innocent.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469720)

their "cause " is to get justice for being abused sexually by a repulsive and committed paedophile

namely Michael Jackson

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469734)

yes but back then when he was accused his victims were still kids - now they are adults and want to talk about what he did

game changer

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10469903)

Maybe people have seen more information this time round Vicky,

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469897)

I actually am, as it makes no logical sense to me at all.

Makes sense she would not believe them. makes sense she thinks its biased. Makes sense maybe she thinks it shouldn't have been shown. Makes sense that she thinks Wade is outright lying. But I cannot make any sense at all of thinking he was guilty prior to this documentary, then watching this documentary making someone forget whatever made them think he was guilty to start with, and thinking he is innocent.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469886)

but you would believe him when he says he isnt a paedo?

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10469925)

I believe that the 2 accusers in the documentary I watched last night are liars, I believe both them and the parents are/were fame and money hungry.

I believe Wade had soured all of professional relationships on the Hollywood scene due to his behaviour so this is his last chance at bagging himself some big money.

I believe the court that found MJ not guilty of all charges.

I don't believe that someone that was sexually abused as a child would then as an adult practically beg that abusers family to allow him and his mother to go to the funeral.

I can't answer the specific question you just put to me because he's dead and I can't ask him?

If he's said in the past 'He isn't a pedo' then yeah I guess so.

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10469802)

This was a tweet from music executive Clyde Jenkins. This is just some of the stuff this one sided documentary conveniently left out. Anyone can make a documentary and make it look like it’s the whole truth. It’s not.

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Wade Robson... you should be ashamed of yourself!!! You and your family befriended the biggest star in the world. I personally recall your mom Joy calling MJJ Music with a sob story about needing money knowing that Michael Jackson loved her and your entire family and would do anything to help her. Michael especially loved you like a son because you dreamed of being a dancer as your mother took you around Australia impersonating who.... Michael Jackson.

Your family moved to the United States leaving your father behind and Michael gave you a record deal as part of a rap duo named QUO! It FAILED!!!

Michael Set you up with his niece Brandi and you guys were together for several years... until you CHEATED with other woman several Times.... she left you!

You still remained in the Jackson Circle.... Why? Because it opened doors for you being associated with Michael Jackson and his family.

That association with Michael Jackson afforded you the opportunity to befriend such artist as Justin Timberlake and Brittany spears... and what did you do...You started working with Justin as a Choreographer and then slept with his girlfriend Brittany Spears and was FIRED. Justin then wrote a song about it called "Cry Me A River". And yet you called Justin your FRIEND!!!

You used your association with Michael Jackson to befriend PRINCE and Mayte.... and what did you do.... You slept with HER!!! Some friend you are!!

You use your association with Michael Jackson to get yourself a gig on a television dance show.... word gets out about your previous disregard and loyalty toward high profile celebrities... and what happens.... you get CUT from that show.

Michael Jackson plans his THIS IS IT concert and you BEG to be the choreographer for the show.... Michael Chooses another Choreographer.... what do you do now that your web of lies are catching up with you and you are now Hollywood damaged goods.... You turn on the one man who looked out for you and your family your ENTIRE life and make up child abuse/molestation allegations that you have emphatically stated for many many years....NEVER HAPPENED!!

Fast forward to today... Michael Jackson is sadly NO LONGER with us. You now beg Michaels Nephew Taj Jackson for VIP access to Michael Jacksons funeral for YOU and your entire family. yet you claim this monster molested you...Sick.

You are now considered a home wrecking, disloyal individual and is essentially blackballed from Hollywood. What do you do? Because You know the world knows you are associated with Michael Jackson.... you use that association once again to change your LIFE LONG STORY to now claim... Michael Jackson molested you. Why? because you are BROKE and your wife is demanding you start making money or she will leave you.

You now convince another broke kid from Michaels past (Pepsi commercial) to join you in a frivolous lawsuit against Michael Jacksons Estate for 100's of Millions of dollars. The courts agree that there is no merit to this lawsuit and dismiss it!!

The Jackson family never fight back when people say disparaging things about their family. Mrs. Jackson once told me when i questioned her about this... she replied "because DIRT sinks and CREAM rises"

Wade knows this to be true as well.... so what does he do? He and James Safechuck concoct a story so salacious, so scandalous so despicable, and presents it to HBO for a one sided EXPLOSIVE televised documentary of LIES... in hopes that the Michael Jackson BILLION DOLLAR ESTATE will settle with you financially to make this documentary go away.

Well that documentary of LIES will air this weekend.... and unlike the Jackson's past... this new generations of Jackson kids are not having it!! they are suing HBO for airing your lying ass!!

I hope when this is all said and done, the estate counter sues YOU in civil court and WIN! I hope it renders you penniless for the rest of your life. Michael Jackson was good to YOU, your mother Joy and your sister Chantel.... and because your gravy train has run out... THIS is how you repay him. You are a sad excuse for a human being!!!

Sorry for this long post... but knowing what i know I just couldn't be silent.

For any of you who thought Michael Jackson was strange... I get it... because there is no one else on earth to compare him to. Yes, there are other child stars who grew up to "blend in" to society...and i get it... But when you are Michael Jackson and the only thing on earth that is more recognizable than you is the yellow "M" at McDonalds..... that in itself is "Strange!"

Anyways.... i say... boycott the documentary... and if you MUST WATCH... know that you now know the basis of the scandalous lies contained within the documentary!

Let that man rest in PEACE!!!

Clyde

(This is from facebook)

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10469925)

I believe that the 2 accusers in the documentary I watched last night are liars, I believe both them and the parents are/were fame and money hungry.

I believe Wade had soured all of professional relationships on the Hollywood scene due to his behaviour so this is his last chance at bagging himself some big money.

I believe the court that found MJ not guilty of all charges.

I don't believe that someone that was sexually abused as a child would then as an adult practically beg that abusers family to allow him and his mother to go to the funeral.

I can't answer the specific question you just put to me because he's dead and I can't ask him?

If he's said in the past 'He isn't a pedo' then yeah I guess so.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469954)

You seem to know a lot about the motivations of both the accusers how is this so and how will they make money?

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10469961)

I don't claim to know a lot about anything tbf, I form my opinions based on what I've watched and read like most other people :shrug:

I'm assuming they were paid for the documentary, they will possibly be offered paid interviews etc about the accusations and so on.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10469925)

I believe that the 2 accusers in the documentary I watched last night are liars, I believe both them and the parents are/were fame and money hungry.

I believe Wade had soured all of professional relationships on the Hollywood scene due to his behaviour so this is his last chance at bagging himself some big money.

I believe the court that found MJ not guilty of all charges.

I don't believe that someone that was sexually abused as a child would then as an adult practically beg that abusers family to allow him and his mother to go to the funeral.

I can't answer the specific question you just put to me because he's dead and I can't ask him?

If he's said in the past 'He isn't a pedo' then yeah I guess so.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10469917)

Like?

I am not trying to be awkward here, I just really cannot make sense of it at all D:

The entire show was about their version of events. So if you disbelieve them, I just don't get how that means whatever made you think he was guilty before, disappears. Especially given they were on 'his side' before this recent turn of events.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469976)

i doubt they were paid, do you know this for sure?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10469976)

i doubt they were paid, do you know this for sure?