I wouldn't make assumptions about me. I am completely neutral on this site and I favour neither the BH or Zeta or The Den or whatever there is. I just see, as I previously stated, that the BH and Zeta cliques DO keep people coming back to the site. And within both groups everybody is friends, without these groups people are likely to leave the site.

I wouldn't ban either group and I would assume that the other super-mods and admins wouldn't either because it would completely ruin the way that this site functions. If people are seriously peeved by the other group then may I suggest not talking to them or trying to sort out some sort of middle that you could all come to?

You do understand that YOU are one of those 'egos' involved don't you!

But we can't help people joining the BH nor talking to us (without being members). It's nor our fault, I can't see the problem. And a lot of people who are in the list don't post any longer so...

Yes I see your point, it's the other twats who are ruining it for the rest, really. People who treat the brotherhood like some sacred covenant.

I don't really consider people like Harry to be brotherhood members. There are two types of people, really. The people who go into the thread, talk, and leave it at that, and those who follow each other like stray dogs with scepters [how do dog's wield scepters?] humping each other at every available opportunity.

For instance : Someone who sees a brotherhood member make a good point in another, completely different, thread and who replies just to say 'Well said from a true brotherhood knight'.

It's those cumstains that grate on the nerves.

Well, do I need to remember the epic comment you made about you being the super-member or some kind of bullshit like that ?
I might me one of them, but at least I'm trying to bring peace around the issue. You clearly are not.

We are trying to come to a compromise.

And, Zeta doesn't exist btw.. so you clearly aren't paying attention.

I know "they don't exist" but their members are still on the site. Why are you jumping down my throat? I'm not favouring anybody on this site, I would like to see some compromise and your clearly getting irritated by something so, if you don't mind, don't take it out on me.

But it used to be and it's where it all started, the BH against the Zetas even though I never understood why we had to be against each other ? We easily could have lived without arguing but oh well, what is done is done.

Well said great knight.

I am not irritated at all. I'm pointing out a fact. Zeta does not exist, and your post before implied it did. I was correcting you and pointing out that you don't appear to pay much attention, so I fail to see how you could have a clear picture of what's going on here.

Harry isn't even a member, he also posts in the Den so it clearly shows we are not stubborn ass bitches.
As for the rest, I can somehow get why it annoys people but it's not all the BH's fault, that's what I am trying to prove. We are not angels, not nice little perfect people but the blame isn't all ours.

Were you also not paying attention in class that day Remy?

The BH was a joke.. I wasn't invited, so as a joke, I started the Cult of lili. I was rivalling Andy as a JOKE!

Now it's no longer a joke and no longer funny.

I have a good idea (good we find out)

We could have a trial period of the BH thread being locked say 48 hours and see what TiBB is like then. Make it longer if need be. Then we can see if the Anti - BH posts meen anything in that sence of the BH taking over TiBB?

What do you think.

I know what happened but like I said, it went too serious and the thing got bigger than ourselves. I'm not denying that.

I have never described myself as super anything! Just shows how you have a tendency to exaggerate in an attempt to win an argument. What I actually said was those members who were 'stronger' (able to stand their ground in an argument with several members from the brotherhood) - how does that equate to super-member! You are definitely not trying to bring peace - as evidenced by the use of such incorrect, and emotive comments!

I agree I have been less active recent due to university. But its clear what's going on and my posts are just voicing my opinion (which are impartial) and suggesting some sort of solutions as a neutral member on TiBB.

Then what do you propose as a solution Marc?

If that were to happen. We would have to create a thread for EVERYBODY in it to discuss. This would involve closing the den as well in order to get everybody together, a fresh start. No one would agree to that.

Thread lockage is not what people want.

People want it to be a social thread, not a group.

Everyone would agree to that. ONE social thread for general chat.

What did you have for breakfast hun cuz you're sizzling this afternoon! Sick burns all over the shop.

Like I said, I didn't remember the name exactly but the purpose is the same so don't play on words with me. Oh well, you already did with the '4 years' comment.
You clearly don't know me at all and I've been involved in arguments, no denying but I also tried to bring peace a lot of times in here and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't unfortunately.
I'm trying to do it now. You clearly aren't.

I don't think it needs to be closed off really, At most it needs a little bit more mod attention to dissolve some of the tensions between members but that's it really. There's no need to get rid of it but considering the list of people against it the most diplomatic thing would be to look at the BH and see how we can amend it, the situation can easily be sorted out with all parties satisfied.

Ok who is in favour of ONE SOCIAL THREAD... Merging BH/Zeta/Den/Lounge etc, into one thread!

Well this has been nearly an hour long read.

I'm with Stu on this one. I'm all for the thread staying, however it's the stupid 'Brotherhood Knight's and bullshit terms like that that I can't stand. Also, as Stu mentioned, the way in which some of the members will follow each other round the forum agreeing with each others posts just so they can stick the phrase 'Sir ____' in. Sometimes even when they don't agree. That's what annoys me.