Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10707430)

Could you elaborate?
You mean he supports Palestinians not israeli occupation?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10707439)

That's just not true it's a widely known antisemitic trope that the Jewish control the banks those types of comments are not coded in any way :/
I'm sorry I don't agree that he only talks to one side that's nonsense what would be the point of that? Objecting to an MP that is able to perform as a facilitator or mediator is for me doing his job well.
Otherwise what's the solution?.. these groups carry on indefinately with no compromise, just mindless violence and heavy handed recourse.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10707446)

If you 'talk to all sides' then you surely should engage with the Israeli side as well but he doesn't. Just as he always associated with hardline Republicans in Ireland but wouldn't be seen dead with unionists.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10707209)

It's easy to focus on whispers about an enemy then confronting an issue in your backyard. There was a quote that Reaper posted recently from a Rabbi which basically said that focusing on the left allows far right extremism, that can and has affected jews, to thrive.

If there is actual evidence of Corbyn being anti-semitic then crucify him for it but at the moment, it just seems like it's the machine in action, the same machine that convinced people to vote against their own interests, that's slowly making out that the NHS is a failing industry in order to sow seeds for privatisation etc.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707173)

The fact that 87% consider him an anti-semite is proof of the value of marketing. Are we then to dismiss Jews that actually support Corbyn and also the Jews that are running in the election for the labour party? Are they not real Jews?

Has anyone got actual quotes from Corbyn that prove him to be anti semitic, or is it just whispers? I could find multiple quotes from Johnson that reveal his actual racism. I agree wholeheartedly that Corbyn didn't deal with the issues in the labour party particularly well, but they are at least addressing them, which is more than you can say for the party leading in the polls, that those same 87% will have no trouble voting for.

No one is blameless, but it's intellectually dishonest to pretend that only labour have their issues.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10707446)

If you 'talk to all sides' then you surely should engage with the Israeli side as well but he doesn't. Just as he always associated with hardline Republicans in Ireland but wouldn't be seen dead with Unionists



You missed my point - I was saying that no one on the left actually says that but they instead talk about the 'Israel/Jewish lobby' or 'Zionist influence' to push that well known trope in a way that doesn't sound anti-Semitic

The less subtle ones do just flat out rant about the Rothschilds tbf which is slightly less coded

Or, y'know, put up murals like this - which Corbyn was outraged was removed

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...28mural%29.jpg

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10707478)

A former Labour MP has confirmed he will run as an independent in the general election after the party withdrew its support for him after he backed protesters in an LGBT teaching row.
The Guardian

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10707515)

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10707518)

that's got to be a first in a GE?

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10707518)

that's got to be a first in a GE?

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707524)

A man that doesn't understand his own deal. Let's imagine this was a speech by corbyn, how do you think the press would react to this absolute nonsense?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10707531)

I get all this , but really you are going by what people say who have the similar views as you ,and will never talk about him favourably , the same vise versa that is why I don't take much notice of tweets etc, they all put their own interpretations on things, there is so much negativity about any party if you search for it, not all of it accurate, so for me its all about likability,intent and body language and of course live footage.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707533)

He's speaking for himself, Kaz. If you watch this and think he's likable with good body language, then it's good that he's met your voting requirements. What he's saying is not true, but he has good intent, I guess? :shrug:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10707534)

I will watch it, I admit I skipped it as I thought it was just another tweeter bashing him, I was just really talking about all the tweets etc out there ,that people think will persuade others to their way of thinking , tbh the main thing that puts me right off Labour is an intense dislike for Corbyn.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707524)

A man that doesn't understand his own deal. Let's imagine this was a speech by corbyn, how do you think the press would react to this absolute nonsense?

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10707555)

For Slim

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707557)

You believe a man that has a one way relationship with the truth?

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10707559)

Trump has said "everything will be on the table" if we want a deal. At that point we'll be the only major country without a trade deal with it's nearest trading partners. He'll be absolutely desperate to present something to the people.