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user104658 16-04-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11034563)
it's a shame that some people consistently find issue and fault with those that oppose their views rather than sticking to what was said by the couple

I guess, if you like crippling debates by walling off perfectly reasonable and relevant lines of discussion :think:. I know that's the official TiBB line but it's not the real world is it. Personal opinion, bias, and prejudice (obviously) does play a role in every debate and pretending otherwise is just... meh... a fake debate not worth having.

Beso 16-04-2021 08:55 PM

The real world..

People use the real world that they experience to form thier opinions..

So this is the real world, actually.

user104658 16-04-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11034727)
The real world..

People use the real world that they experience to form thier opinions..

So this is the real world, actually.

Yes exactly Parmy; pretending that debates exist in a vacuum separate to the experiences and worldviews of those involved in the debate is not "real". Thus, "finding issue and fault with those that oppose one's views" is an integral part of a full and open debate. A sanitised "debate" where one has to pretend that debators don't bring external factors to the table is ... a big ol' pile of nothing.

Tom4784 16-04-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11034557)
They did, Meghan more so, pretending otherwise is full - on refusal to accept facts.

They didn't, Shall we go to the actual quotes and video clips? Choosing to misconstrue something to fit your agenda doesn't make it a fact.

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11034563)
it's a shame that some people consistently find issue and fault with those that oppose their views rather than sticking to what was said by the couple

I have too much self respect to allow lies and fake narratives to go unchallenged.

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034581)
So what point was he and Meghan making when they referred to a member of the family question Archies skin colour....???

So you're more offended for the unknown Royal family member who said the remark than you are of the remark itself.

Interesting.

If they wanted to attack the royal family, they would have mentioned names, they would have gone for the jugular, but they did not. They didn't insult the queen, they didn't insult the royal family, anyone who can see the facts for what they are will tell you that.

Marsh. 16-04-2021 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034581)
So what point was he and Meghan making when they referred to a member of the family question Archies skin colour....???

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11034592)
A term of endearment :laugh:

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034609)
:hehe:...have we misunderstood it all along :laugh:

Again, take issue with the calling out of racism rather than the racism itself. Typical.

Beso 16-04-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11034746)
Yes exactly Parmy; pretending that debates exist in a vacuum separate to the experiences and worldviews of those involved in the debate is not "real". Thus, "finding issue and fault with those that oppose one's views" is an integral part of a full and open debate. A sanitised "debate" where one has to pretend that debators don't bring external factors to the table is ... a big ol' pile of nothing.

That hurt my reading glasses.

Not sure if I agree or not.:shrug:

Beso 16-04-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11034765)
Again, take issue with the calling out of racism rather than the racism itself. Typical.

What racism?

jet 16-04-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11034759)
They didn't, Shall we go to the actual quotes and video clips? Choosing to misconstrue something to fit your agenda doesn't make it a fact.

I don't need them, I watched the whole interview, but if you do, go for it. Look out for all the lies too.

rusticgal 16-04-2021 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11034759)



So you're more offended for the unknown Royal family member who said the remark than you are of the remark itself.

Interesting.

.


I never said that...and you know it. I was responding to the fact you said they never said anything to offend the Royal family...and I simply put you right.

Tom4784 17-04-2021 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11034819)
I don't need them, I watched the whole interview, but if you do, go for it. Look out for all the lies too.

Just because you don't like what was said in that interview, doesn't make it a lie.

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034834)
I never said that...and you know it. I was responding to the fact you said they never said anything to offend the Royal family...and I simply put you right.

Okay, I'm gonna explain it to you. This interaction started with me making this post.

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11034539)
Are people still clinging desperately to their lies that Harry and Will attacked their family? It's quite sad how people cling to fake narratives.

To which you responded with this.

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034543)
When did Wiliam attack his family and call them racist????

Here, we can see that you believe Harry speaking about a family member that he refuses to identify for their sake and their racist comment. You said as much in this post that you consider it an attack, thus you are more offended by the accusation of racism than you are of the act of racism itself.

Let's carry on, shall we? I responded to that post by saying that Harry didn't attack his family and you doubled down with this.

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11034581)
So what point was he and Meghan making when they referred to a member of the family question Archies skin colour....???

Here you basically re-iterate that Harry speaking about a racist incident but not exposing the person in question is an attack on the royal family, you don't seem too bothered about the racist remarks, but you see them revealing such an incident has taken place as an attack on the royal family.

You didn't 'put me right' about anything, you simply weren't keeping track of what you said previously. Hell, you even messed up in this post and said that what Harry said was an offense to the royal family. Another instance of you considering the revealing of such an incident as more offensive than the incident itself.

Marsh. 17-04-2021 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11034775)
What racism?

Racism racism.

arista 17-04-2021 06:49 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04...8672102364.jpg

[Prince Harry and Prince William walk next to each other as they leave the funeral]

Marsh. 17-04-2021 06:55 PM

Omg they look absolutely FURIOUS with each other.

:hehe:

Liam- 17-04-2021 06:58 PM

You can’t tell because of the masks, but they’re whispering death threats to eachother

thesheriff443 17-04-2021 07:35 PM

William is saying to the arch bishop, see this medal on my chest well it’s actually a throwing star made to look like a medal and when Harry’s back is turned I’m going to let him have it right in his bald bonce

joeysteele 17-04-2021 08:51 PM

It was really welcome to see the 2 Princes walking from the Chapel together back to the State rooms with Kate too.

Just really good luck to all of them.

Beso 19-04-2021 03:39 PM

How much has it cost the taxpayer for Harry's security during his visit.
 
Anyone know how much we've had to fork out for the letch.:shrug:

arista 19-04-2021 03:40 PM

20,000 pounds

Niamh. 19-04-2021 03:41 PM

It was his grandfathers funeral ffs

Beso 19-04-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11035758)
It was his grandfathers funeral ffs

So what...

He should have paid it himself the scrounging fop

Niamh. 19-04-2021 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11035761)
So what...

He should have paid it himself the scrounging fop

Why should he?, the only reason he needs security is because he was born in to that family and life, it's not his fault :shrug:

rusticgal 19-04-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11035761)
So what...

He should have paid it himself the scrounging fop


..."scrounging fop"...:laugh:

GoldHeart 19-04-2021 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11035761)
So what...

He should have paid it himself the scrounging fop

You being serious?

joeysteele 19-04-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11035762)
Why should he?, the only reason he needs security is because he was born in to that family and life, it's not his fault :shrug:

Exactly Niamh.

Just when it's thought the criticisms can't get any worse, along worse ones come.

I doubt myself Prince Philip who had a sense of humour would have been impressed with this latest one.

jet 19-04-2021 06:55 PM

SARAH VINE: Kate Middleton showed again at Prince Philip's funeral that she's a class act who can be the monarchy's new rock
By SARAH VINE

……………..Knowing, perhaps, that with the world’s cameras on the three of them the brothers would be less likely to make a spectacle, she extended the hand of friendship to Harry and drew him into conversation.
Whatever her own feelings about what was said about her in the interview, she put them aside for the sake of the greater good: an opportunity to turn what was a deeply sad occasion into one, perhaps, tinged with hope. And she did it with such effortless charm and generosity of spirit.

Who knows whether Harry and William’s exchange will go any way towards beginning to bridge the gap between them; but God love Kate for giving it a go. For seeing the bigger picture and putting their happiness ahead of her own satisfaction.
And what a stark contrast, it must be said, to that other royal consort, out in sunny Santa Barbara, always so quick to take offence, always so keen to be cast as the victim.
Well, she can say whatever she likes: the quiet sincerity of the Duchess of Cambridge’s good heart is all the truth we need to know.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...chys-rock.html


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