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joeysteele 12-04-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5933038)


Knew she'd said this and know a bit about Section 28 but didn't know there was a video of the speech. Vile. And people wonder why that song is being downloaded by some...

Apparantly,I am told she never relented from that speech either Jack.
30 years ago or not it was still vile.

Kizzy 12-04-2013 07:23 PM

I am so sick of hearing that same tired line, shes dead... yes she is so I say say what the hell you like!
Hurting families?... What tory has ever give a toss about that?
There is no such thing as society mags said, Well there must be a strange phenomenon occurring then as millions of individuals are experiencing the same thought... 'ding effing dong!'

Jack_ 12-04-2013 07:32 PM

Just because she's dead it doesn't mean her legacy is over, in fact it's anything but and is growing year by year. She might be dead but her ideology lives on, and as she is to blame for instigating it, who else are we supposed to discuss and direct the hatred towards? Of course politicians and parties in existence now are part of the problem, but Thatcher started Thatcherism, no one else.

I'm not rejoicing at the fact she is dead, to me it doesn't change anything, but I can certainly understand why some who are worse off than me and lived through her time in office are celebrating. She wouldn't have cared anyway, she was hardly the most compassionate woman - someone raised a good point on Question Time last night, I think if she knew some people weren't protesting and celebrating her passing, and that she hadn't divided the nation once again, she'd be thoroughly disappointed. As for her family, they'll have had decades to prepare for this and I'm pretty sure they'll have heard pretty awful things about her in the past anyway, it comes with the territory. Right now I'm sure they are most concerned about the impending funeral and supporting one another, not internet campaigns and inevitable protests. We're talking about Margaret Thatcher, not Betty from number 2 down the road.

Tom4784 12-04-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5933095)
I am so sick of hearing that same tired line, shes dead... yes she is so I say say what the hell you like!
Hurting families?... What tory has ever give a toss about that?
There is no such thing as society mags said, Well there must be a strange phenomenon occurring then as millions of individuals are experiencing the same thought... 'ding effing dong!'

First off it's called Empathy, how would you feel about it if people were leading such a campaign against a recently deceased member of your family? Would you like it if someone was laughing at you because you lost someone you loved? You wouldn't like it at all, so why condone it?

Just because someone treats you badly it doesn't give you the right to treat their family horribly, doing that just makes you as bad as them, in fact it makes you worse.

It's just tacky and undignified. Like seriously, have some self respect, people who are acting with glee about it are just making themselves look like dicks.

Ninastar 12-04-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5933194)
First off it's called Empathy, how would you feel about it if people were leading such a campaign against a recently deceased member of your family? Would you like it if someone was laughing at you because you lost someone you loved? You wouldn't like it at all, so why condone it?

Just because someone treats you badly it doesn't give you the right to treat their family horribly, doing that just makes you as bad as them, in fact it makes you worse.

It's just tacky and undignified. Like seriously, have some self respect people who are acting with glee about it are just making themselves look like dicks.

:worship:

and that's all i've been saying the whole time. no matter the person she way, what people are doing about her death is worse.

GypsyGoth 12-04-2013 09:24 PM

I agree.

Filling yourself with pettiness and bitterness is only damaging yourself. Rejoicing in the death of another will have no effect on them since they're dead. If the rejoicing is a way to release some of the pent up bitterness, I think it only passes on ill feeling and continues cycles.

I think forgiving is much more beneficial. That way you can release the bad feelings you harbour for someone and you can move on.

Alf 12-04-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5933194)
First off it's called Empathy, how would you feel about it if people were leading such a campaign against a recently deceased member of your family? Would you like it if someone was laughing at you because you lost someone you loved? You wouldn't like it at all, so why condone it?

Just because someone treats you badly it doesn't give you the right to treat their family horribly, doing that just makes you as bad as them, in fact it makes you worse.

It's just tacky and undignified. Like seriously, have some self respect, people who are acting with glee about it are just making themselves look like dicks.

I didn't see you giving this sort of passionate sympathy for Jimmy Savile's family.

Ninastar 12-04-2013 09:54 PM

these comparisons are laughable

Kizzy 12-04-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5933194)
First off it's called Empathy, how would you feel about it if people were leading such a campaign against a recently deceased member of your family? Would you like it if someone was laughing at you because you lost someone you loved? You wouldn't like it at all, so why condone it?

Just because someone treats you badly it doesn't give you the right to treat their family horribly, doing that just makes you as bad as them, in fact it makes you worse.

It's just tacky and undignified. Like seriously, have some self respect people who are acting with glee about it are just making themselves look like dicks.

First off it has been accepted by the metropolitan police that there is a democratic right to protest.
Quite frankly I feel the rest of your post is laughable, seriously if after all the testimony, facts and opinion across these threads I find it hard to believe why anyone who has a view would be called a 'dick'?
We all have a perspective, I appreciate you don't see why some feel passionately enough to take to the streets.
However, those who do choose to demonstrate have the right to be heard, using the funeral of the person that you feel is the the root cause of the problems we currently face may seem extreme... it is though representative of feeling across the UK.

Brother Leon 12-04-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5933254)
I didn't see you giving this sort of passionate sympathy for Jimmy Savile's family.

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5933275)
these comparisons are laughable

Not really. What did Savile's family do after all?

Ninastar 12-04-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 5933341)
Not really. What did Savile's family do after all?

sorry, i didn't realise that music was bought in jest of his death

Tom4784 12-04-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5933254)
I didn't see you giving this sort of passionate sympathy for Jimmy Savile's family.

I think you are confusing me with someone else, I don't think I've ever said anything about Jimmy Saville except that I wouldn't judge him without knowing all the details before everything came to light. I don't think I've mentioned him since?

My views seem to cause such a volatile reaction in you that you are forgetting who said what.

Tom4784 12-04-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5933284)
First off it has been accepted by the metropolitan police that there is a democratic right to protest.
Quite frankly I feel the rest of your post is laughable, seriously if after all the testimony, facts and opinion across these threads I find it hard to believe why anyone who has a view would be called a 'dick'?
We all have a perspective, I appreciate you don't see why some feel passionately enough to take to the streets.
However, those who do choose to demonstrate have the right to be heard, using the funeral of the person that you feel is the the root cause of the problems we currently face may seem extreme... it is though representative of feeling across the UK.

What's there to protest? She's dead, she can't change anything now.

People are not protesting, they are rejoicing over someone dying and nothing can change that fact. You can keep dressing it up as something noble but in the end you're laughing at a dead old woman who is beyond caring now. The only people getting hurt are her family.

Brother Leon 12-04-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5933359)
sorry, i didn't realise that music was bought in jest of his death

Doesn't matter. He was still made a joke of and hated on when dead while his family would of had to put up with it.

Locke. 12-04-2013 11:22 PM


Ninastar 12-04-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 5933362)
Doesn't matter. He was still made a joke of and hated on when dead while his family would of had to put up with it.

he was a pedophile... are you saying that margaret was just as bad and deserves the hate?

Omah 12-04-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5925939)
"Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead"

:idc:

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5925944)
Typical

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5925960)
"Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead."

:cheer2:

I don't usually buy music (my collection is already large enough to a lifetime) but, for 69p, I've just made an exception ..... :pipe:

Brother Leon 12-04-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 5933365)

:joker:. Studio version should of been made and put on iTunes if they were going to have go through the trouble of a campaign tbh.

Imagine the BBC then :joker:

Locke. 12-04-2013 11:26 PM

Great work Omah

MTVN 12-04-2013 11:27 PM

Good old Maggie

Brother Leon 12-04-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5933366)
he was a pedophile... are you saying that margaret was just as bad and deserves the hate?

She wasn't as bad no. An absolutely terrible person who deserves all of this though. His family were completely innocent though so by this logic, no hate should of been shown towards Savile for his family..right?

Alf 12-04-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5933360)
I think you are confusing me with someone else, I don't think I've ever said anything about Jimmy Saville except that I wouldn't judge him without knowing all the details before everything came to light. I don't think I've mentioned him since?

My views seem to cause such a volatile reaction in you that you are forgetting who said what.

Where have i been volatile? i'm not the one lecturing people and calling them dicks because they want to rejoice that she's dead.

Redway 12-04-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5933361)
What's there to protest? She's dead, she can't change anything now.

People are not protesting, they are rejoicing over someone dying and nothing can change that fact. You can keep dressing it up as something noble but in the end you're laughing at a dead old woman who is beyond caring now. The only people getting hurt are her family.

Better expressed than I've been able to say so far. :worship:

Marsh. 12-04-2013 11:53 PM

"When Margaret Thatcher dies"? :confused:

Did the scousers not get the memo? She is dead. :laugh:

Josy 12-04-2013 11:55 PM

The protest tomorrow/today was arranged 20+ years ago wasnt it?

The feelings of resentment these people have about her and her policies are so strong that they wont disappear immediately just because she's died and I'm pretty sure all the praise she's been receiving in the media these past few days will be making it even worse, so they are no doubt using these protests as a means of releasing it all.


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