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Kazanne 07-03-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470032)
Kazanne, is there a reason you keep just copy and pasting other peoples answers from random places on the internet? Its quite odd, in a case you seem to be extremely into, to not have your own opinions to add? :conf:

Edited to add ... https://it.answers.yahoo.com/questio...AAfS8Ap&page=1

I pointed this out last night too, the copy and pasting other peoples opinions and not crediting them for it. :S

I never claimed them to be mine I posted them as they are posts that I agree with saves me typing them,most are from Wikipedia,what is wrong with searching around for information and if I agree with an opinion I post it,I don't see the problem.i didn't realise it wasn't allowed, plus isn't it the same as posting links?

Vicky. 07-03-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10470107)
I never claimed them to be mine I posted them as they are posts that I agree with saves me posting them,most are from Wikipedia,what is wrong with searching around for information and if I agree with an opinion I post it,I don't see the problem.

Posting them as if they are yours, kind of says you are trying to pass them off as yours :laugh: Fair enough agreeing with them, but copy and pasting randomers arguments from random places on the internet..is really strange. Especially when not putting the links or anything D:

Maybe its just me, but it seems so strange to have such strong feelings on a case but using other peoples posts instead of your own.

Kazanne 07-03-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470114)
Posting them as if they are yours, kind of says you are trying to pass them off as yours :laugh: Fair enough agreeing with them, but copy and pasting randomers arguments from random places on the internet..is really strange. Especially when not putting the links or anything D:

Well the link is Wikipedia,and Yahoo,why does it matter if they are sentiments I agree with :shrug:sometimes I can't be arsed with typing them all out.

Vicky. 07-03-2019 06:59 PM

OK each to their own I guess. Just a really strange way to partake in a debate :laugh:

Kazanne 07-03-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470123)
OK each to their own I guess. Just a really strange way to partake in a debate :laugh:

I have been posting my own thoughts too but sometimes something is posted that has information that some of us might not have heard, some people might not bother to look so I don't see the problem in relaying that info.

Beso 07-03-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10470087)

Oh..lovely..you can quote your own post...hope that's not bad form...


K.. have a read of this it's too much not to add up to something.

Josy 07-03-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10470107)
I never claimed them to be mine I posted them as they are posts that I agree with saves me typing them,most are from Wikipedia,what is wrong with searching around for information and if I agree with an opinion I post it,I don't see the problem.i didn't realise it wasn't allowed, plus isn't it the same as posting links?

Well can you not do that please it's just odd and comes across as you passing it off as your own opinion, if you can't post your opinion in your own words then post a link and say something like this is an opinion that mirrors my own or similar, at least giving some credit to the person that actually took the time to put thier thoughts into words.

Kazanne 07-03-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10470143)
Well can you not do that please it's just odd and comes across as you passing it off as your own opinion, if you can't post your opinion in your own words then post a link and say something like this is an opinion that mirrors my own or similar, at least giving some credit to the person that actually took the time to put thier thoughts into words.

I've said already most are from wiki ,2 at most from yahoo.but don't worry I get the message

GoldHeart 07-03-2019 07:17 PM

I'll never forget that insane programme they aired about 15 years ago about all the boy's he formed friendships with. The slander & accusations were disgusting & wild .

They even went into Michael's sexuality & relationship background. They actually tried to link him as "gay" & "paedophilic" like they're both the same thing :crazy::facepalm: .

The guy seemed more asexual if anything later in his life , who just happened to of had relationships with females he liked plus he wanted to have kids .

Interesting how people forget how they made out Michael must be "gay" just because young boys spent time with him , gay community should be offended by that ridiculous statement.

A paedophile is a paedophile regardless of gender or sexuality , I know some have an obsession with little girls or boys but either way they have a perverted interest in kids in general .

Vicky. 07-03-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10470140)
Oh..lovely..you can quote your own post...hope that's not bad form...


K.. have a read of this it's too much not to add up to something.

Hmm this is new to me..from first answer (will be reading this for ages now!)

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. Wade Robson 1990–1997

Testified in defense of Michael in 2005. Now suing his estate. Claims he ran the most elaborate child molestation operation in the world with the aide of Norma Staikos.
I wonder if this was on the last half hour or so of the documentary, the bit I fell asleep in...or if its from elsewhere. Have not heard this before.

This is going to be another of those things that I get obsessed with and end up not sleeping for ages as reading more I think :laugh:

(There also seems to be a LOT of names on that list, I knew there were more than a couple but not this many. - edited... Ah it seems its just a list of his fave boys, with which ones have so far alleged to have been abused, misread that totally)

Vicky. 07-03-2019 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10470186)

A paedophile is a paedophile regardless of gender or sexuality , I know some have an obsession with little girls or boys but either way they have a perverted interest in kids in general .

I am sure that they tend to have age/sex/looks/build preferences. Rather than it being like..any kid.

Depends on the pedo in question though, obviously.

Beso 07-03-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470196)
I am sure that they tend to have age/sex/looks/build preferences. Rather than it being like..any kid.

Depends on the pedo in question though, obviously.



Some of the true story books you read about priests...it definatly does....search "Paul connelly"my m8s mate, they grew up together. He has a film coming out very soon about his life.

GoldHeart 07-03-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470196)
I am sure that they tend to have age/sex/looks/build preferences. Rather than it being like..any kid.

Depends on the pedo in question though, obviously.

You're missing the point . they tried to say basically "gay & paedophile" can't you see something very wrong with that?? :facepalm: .

I already said I know some have a particular fascination with certain children, but as I said his sexuality is irrelevant yet they tried to use that against him in that 15 year old documentary :bored:

Vicky. 07-03-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10470233)
You're missing the point . they tried to say basically "gay & paedophile" can't you see something very wrong with that?? :facepalm: .

..not really. Saying someone is a paedo because they are gay, sure. But saying he was a gay paedophile..well it does seem to be likely. Might be totally missing what you were getting at though

I havent seen that documentary, is this the one where he admitted sleeping with kids in the first place? As I think am going to watch that in a bit so will be able to answer much better then :laugh:

Beso 07-03-2019 07:47 PM

Wish there were funny memes out there.

GoldHeart 07-03-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470240)
..not really. Saying someone is a paedo because they are gay, sure. But saying he was a gay paedophile..well it does seem to be likely. Might be totally missing what you were getting at though

I havent seen that documentary, is this the one where he admitted sleeping with kids in the first place? As I think am going to watch that in a bit so will be able to answer much better then :laugh:

No I'm not talking about the Bashir documentary .
I'm talking about another one where they focused entirely on the boys ,and they interviewed some of them . Michael himself wasn't in this one .

Beso 07-03-2019 07:52 PM

His fans should watch finding neverland

Vicky. 07-03-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10470246)
No I'm not talking about the Bashir documentary .
I'm talking about another one where they focused entirely on the boys ,and they interviewed some of them . Michael himself wasn't in this one .

Will have a look for that after the Bashir one. I expect there are hundreds of documentaries about it all though..

GoldHeart 07-03-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10470248)
Will have a look for that after the Bashir one. I expect there are hundreds of documentaries about it all though..

Well you'll probably believe the allegations ,but I myself back then was not falling for the BS and today I'm even more convinced it's all BS !!! . They tried their hardest to incriminate & destroy him & today they're doing it all again :bored: .

Vicky I find it very damaging how they originally went up in his personal life & sexuality to try and frame him as some "homo with a lust for little boys " .

Kevin Spacey conveniently came out the closet when he had assault allegations towards a young boy. I'm sure some people were angry as it could of been perceived the wrong way .
A pervert is a pervert regardless of sexuality that's my point .

Crimson Dynamo 07-03-2019 08:18 PM

20 mins in and its looking good for MJ

:umm2:

Amy Jade 07-03-2019 08:32 PM

Vicky I spoke to my mum and she basically said she was a bit ignorant to facts and thought Michael had been prosecuted for molestation and after seeing the first part of the documentary and listening to me talk about it and the inconsistencies she believes he is innocent and being used for money.

She also said she has read some facts today that have made her even more confident that he was not guilty of molestation but either way as he is passed sadly his name cannot be cleared as easily as it once was.

Crimson Dynamo 07-03-2019 08:47 PM

I wonder what facts ?

From where

Vicky. 07-03-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10470295)
Vicky I spoke to my mum and she basically said she was a bit ignorant to facts and thought Michael had been prosecuted for molestation and after seeing the first part of the documentary and listening to me talk about it and the inconsistencies she believes he is innocent and being used for money.

She also said she has read some facts today that have made her even more confident that he was not guilty of molestation but either way as he is passed sadly his name cannot be cleared as easily as it once was.

Yeah that makes sense..kazanne basically said the same thing. I was getting so stuck on..basically how the actual doc could make anyone think he was innocent and didnt really consider that the doc made people look into it a bit more and THAT was what changed their minds, not the actual documentary :laugh: Having a blonde day I think

Kazanne 07-03-2019 09:08 PM

So they WERE adults when they testified the second time. and why didn't he tell his mom when she asked him he was a grown up then.

joeysteele 07-03-2019 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10470327)
So they WERE adults when they testified the second time

They are like robots.
It's like they are talking about what they bought at a store.

There's no passion, no emotion.
Even talking about things they say he did, he didn't like.

Even from the Mother of one so far.
All that seems to have upset them is that Michael Jackson had stopped contacting them much.

As for the underwear blood issue.
He went to get them, he says, saw blood on them and just threw them away..
Not worrying about his blood on them.

Oh come on, for goodness sake, as a child if I was bleeding even from a cut, I'd have near panicked.
I'd certainly have if blood was on my underwear.
I'd have gone straight to my parents.


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