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Oliver_W 22-09-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11331774)
It's just nothing new. It's never anything new. It's the stuff that anyone with an ear half to the ground online has been hearing about for literal decades -- only now (massive irony) it's gone more mainstream, certain groups of people are just hearing about it all for the first time and think they've stumbled upon some grand revelation that no one else was "awake to" before they got bored and found out that Reddit exists in mid-2020.

So now the same old, same old, same old is parroted back and forth ad nauseam but with the added irritant of some bloke or other who just figured out how to plug in his router droning "bet you ignorant shills didn't know about any of THIS! I have uncovered the global secrets!!" over the top of it.

It's somewhat funny but increasingly just tiring and boring. I was a wee teenager kicking about abovetopsecret.com as early as 2001 and now some old lads who saw the same **** on YouTube or Twitter 20 years later have taken it upon themselves to "educate me about it". **** off with it in all honesty! I mean really! It was BS peppered with flecks of truth for flavour back then, it's the same now.

Thought as much.

Is it weird to say I'm disappointed in Russell Brand :laugh: ? Like, I've not really followed him in literal years, which is why I was surprised that he actually had ostensibly slid to the right, and he's always seemed like a conspiracy nut, but I thought he was more into harmless bonkers conspiracies, not the same ones everyone in the mileau of Crowder comes out with.

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11331777)
Thought as much.

Is it weird to say I'm disappointed in Russell Brand :laugh: ? Like, I've not really followed him in literal years, which is why I was surprised that he actually had ostensibly slid to the right, and he's always seemed like a conspiracy nut, but I thought he was more into harmless bonkers conspiracies, not the same ones everyone in the mileau of Crowder comes out with.

what conspiracy theories does he promote?

and what right wing views is he promoting?

arista 22-09-2023 04:01 PM

Newsnight BBC2HD
has special interview
with another worker
who was with Brand.

user104658 22-09-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331781)
what right wing views is he promoting?

The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331781)
what conspiracy theories does he promote?

This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11331784)
The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.



This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.


lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

bots 22-09-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331790)
lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

and every time you spout bad MSM you are propagating and parroting what you have watched on videos. I see you do it every day on here. I've also seen you entirely turn round your viewpoint when you have received your daily update from the hive mind

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11331796)
and every time you spout bad MSM you are propagating and parroting what you have watched on videos. I see you do it every day on here. I've also seen you entirely turn round your viewpoint when you have received your daily update from the hive mind

hive mind

wonder where you got that phrase....?


:skull:

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 04:36 PM


user104658 22-09-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331790)
lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

For god only knows what reason, clearly I have too much time on my hands - I did watch it. It is possible to watch them and not be indoctrinated by them - I know you might find that tough to believe?

I don't watch MSM news. I don't even have live TV in my house. Do I think YouTube or "Rumble" are better sources of news? Funnily enough - no.

I just know silly overblown BS when I hear it, and that's what's pumped out by both the MSM and these content creators. All competing for the attention of the attention-deficit. Getting sucked in by a YouTuber instead of a Newspaper doesn't make you somehow superior LT.

user104658 22-09-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331803)
hive mind

wonder where you got that phrase....?


:skull:

I mean... at the very least, Star Trek has been using it since the early 90's.

Another old-as-the-hills parlance that in your imaginary world only came into use since COVID?

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11331809)
For god only knows what reason, clearly I have too much time on my hands - I did watch it. It is possible to watch them and not be indoctrinated by them - I know you might find that tough to believe?

I don't watch MSM news. I don't even have live TV in my house. Do I think YouTube or "Rumble" are better sources of news? Funnily enough - no.

I just know silly overblown BS when I hear it, and that's what's pumped out by both the MSM and these content creators. All competing for the attention of the attention-deficit. Getting sucked in by a YouTuber instead of a Newspaper doesn't make you somehow superior LT.

Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"


user104658 22-09-2023 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11331774)
It was BS peppered with flecks of truth for flavour back then, it's the same now.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331811)
Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"

I literally said it today on this thread - using little bits of the truth and pointing out the inconsistencies (and there are indeed plenty) in the mainstream news narrative is how these Truther concepts and the bad-faith individuals using those concepts to control and manipulate (and make money) gain a foothold in the first place - and then they run with it and mould it into whatever nonsense they fancy moulding it into.

I've said MANY times since the Brand story broke that it can certainly be true that the MSM have an axe to grind with him currently and that's why there's a heavy focus on him right now ... and it also be true that he's been an abusive **** who has sexually assaulted multiple women.

The "media swamping" of stories about Brand is suspicious. The idea that these things weren't already known about him for years if not decades is dubious. Sure I can buy into that. I still think he bloody did the things he's accused of doing, and I'm not inclined to consider those crimes "irrelevant because there's also other stuff going on".

Do you imagine that Brand is the first or only person saying the things he's saying in that Twitter clip? He isn't. He quite obviously isn't. SO the idea that there's a grand conspiracy to silence someone who is only saying the same things that dozens if not hundreds of other high profile people were already saying? When the effect is that actually MORE attention has been drawn to it? Obviously nonsense.

Again like I said the other day, you seem to similtaneously believe two things:

1) There's powerful global forces at work meticulously crafting conspiracies against people, involving hundreds/thousands of individuals, without leaving any solid trace of their actions

and at the same time

2) They're entirely inept, can't work Photoshop, and actually gave the things they're trying to silence more exposure (which was always obvious would happen).

Mad.

Oliver_W 22-09-2023 05:09 PM

For some reason Blackrock has an association with "woke media" in my mind but I'm not really sure why, and I'm not watching any annoying videos to find out :joker:

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 05:20 PM

BlackRock and Vanguard were all in on ESG but they are now turning the oil tanker around and reversing

And now Rishi is rowing back on Net Zero bollocks

A coincidence?

https://fortune.com/2023/09/13/black...nce-bob-rubin/

arista 22-09-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331805)


Of course LT

He is being hunted down


But in 2008
in that, BBC Hired building in LA

Brand got his erect Cock Out
in a bog while the young lady was in there.


Then recorded for his Radio 2 show
him laughing about doing just that.

The Slim Reaper 22-09-2023 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11331784)
The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.



This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.

Alt-right is neo-nazi far right.

Oliver_W 22-09-2023 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331827)
BlackRock and Vanguard were all in on ESG

Oh that's it.

I don't even know what ESGs are, apart from having some connection to so-called "wokeness" :joker:

Cherie 22-09-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11331811)
Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"


There is alot of merit to what he is saying, but is he the only one to say this ever? I dont think so, he makes his point in that very Brand way of enuciating with wild eyes and it is impactful, he also makes a million squids every year from his YT channel so it would be easy for him to align with a few conspiracies just to spice things up

bots 22-09-2023 06:02 PM

i think that Brand has been protected for years by the elites that he now speaks out against. Funnily enough, when they remove their protection, it all comes tumbling down and that is what we are seeing play out here

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11331841)
There is alot of merit to what he is saying, but is he the only one to say this ever? I dont think so, he makes his point in that very Brand way of enuciating with wild eyes and it is impactful, he also makes a million squids every year from his YT channel so it would be easy for him to align with a few conspiracies just to spice things up

absolutely, its no different from the lads I follow doing youtube golf content spamming me every day with


"Have COSTCO Golf BALLS got EVEN BETTER?!?!"

"SHOCKING!! AMAZONS NO.1 Seller YOU Will be SURPRISED!!"

"Are you being CONNED with Expensive Golf Clubs!!!"

"IS THE NWO AND THE WHO lying about their golf handicap?"

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11331843)
i think that Brand has been protected for years by the elites that he now speaks out against. Funnily enough, when they remove their protection, it all comes tumbling down and that is what we are seeing play out here

and the BBC

The BBC’s toxic culture enabled Russell Brand – I know, I was there
As a long-serving 6 Music DJ, I witnessed the favouritism and rule-breaking
that allowed Brand’s bullying to go unchecked

My beef is not with Brand. It’s about the BBC management culture that
prevailed and permitted his antics at Radio 2 and 6 Music from 2006 to 2008,
when he was allowed to indulge in narcissistic and reckless behaviour on the
shop floor and to serve up his own brand of childish, self-serving, point-
scoring bile on air – leaving behind him a trail of ruined careers and shattered
lives.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...lture-witness/

bots 22-09-2023 06:08 PM

i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11331846)
i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

:fc:

arista 22-09-2023 06:18 PM


Swan 22-09-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11331846)
i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

I really wish everyone would just stop paying for that sh!t, it would force them to change. They can't take us all to court. But you will get very cleverly worded letters, filled with scare tactics, i use them for the bottom of my kitten's litter tray.


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