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bots 30-11-2021 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11117597)
Why so? If it was fake why would it say refugees welcome? That doesn't even sound bad, because I don't think many people would have an issue with genuine refugees being welcome. If you was gonna do a fake what would be the point of it? Wouldn't you do something more meaningful if you were trying to smear?

I have no reason to believe it's fake, why do you believe it's obvious, what's your tells?

because there was one exactly the same for Abbott .... i mean you can see someone has plonked that card with writing on ..... If you truly get fooled by this stuff then its no surprise you swallow every conspiracy going

Alf 30-11-2021 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11117598)
because there was one exactly the same for Abbott .... i mean you can see someone has plonked that card with writing on ..... If you truly get fooled by this stuff then its no surprise you swallow every conspiracy going

So you can't really explain why it was obvious, it was just so you could have a pop at me?

I'm fairly sure I remember lots of people in the spotlight holding up signs like this at one time or another, usually after terrorist attacks from a few years back. So as I say, I see no reason why it's fake.

Alf 30-11-2021 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11117598)
because there was one exactly the same for Abbott .... i mean you can see someone has plonked that card with writing on ..... If you truly get fooled by this stuff then its no surprise you swallow every conspiracy going

Also, just googled it and there's an article in The Spectator from August 2016 showing the same picture. I wouldn't believe The Spectator would put a fake picture in their publication.

Alf 30-11-2021 07:07 AM

So it looks like it turns out that you either swallow things too easy or just blatantly make stuff up.

Quick, see what you can do to turn this back around on me again.

bots 30-11-2021 07:17 AM

Alf, you keep think as you do, but at least try to apply some critical thinking to what you read

Alf 30-11-2021 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11117606)
Alf, you keep think as you do, but at least try to apply some critical thinking to what you read

Don't make up porkie pies to try and get the upper hand over me. If you want to put me down then do it with facts and honesty. I'll respect that more.

joeysteele 30-11-2021 07:57 AM

I'm so glad to see Yvette made Home secretary.
She is very effective in select committee questioning on issues.

Absolutely great new to see Wes Streeting as Health secretary now too.
I've great respect for Wes.
Congratulations to him from me.

Not sure on David Lammy's post now however.

A fair bit of just moving around than anything else, however the changes made seem on paper good matching up as to most, in my view.

bots 30-11-2021 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11117609)
Don't make up porkie pies to try and get the upper hand over me. If you want to put me down then do it with facts and honesty. I'll respect that more.

i'm not making up porky pies alf, the picture is fake

arista 30-11-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11117618)
I'm so glad to see Yvette made Home secretary.
She is very effective in select committee questioning on issues.

Absolutely great new to see Wes Streeting as Health secretary now too.
I've great respect for Wes.
Congratulations to him from me.

Not sure on David Lammy's post now however.

A fair bit of just moving around than anything else, however the changes made seem on paper good matching up as to most, in my view.


Yes Lammy
Shadow Foreign Secretary

And he still has an LBC show?

arista 30-11-2021 04:21 PM


Oliver_W 30-11-2021 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11117825)

Does anyone even care what Own Goal has to say?

(Apart from those who foam at the mouth at every little thing he does)

arista 30-11-2021 04:46 PM

Keir is having his booster injection
on Monday.

He agrees with the PM on Masks.

He told Beth Rigby.

arista 03-12-2021 02:57 AM

BBC Text:
[The cut in funding from the Labour Party's
biggest union backer, Unite. Unite decided
to cut the funding because, according
to its general secretary,
"Labour needs to talk about workers
and defend communities".
]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...uardian-nc.png

joeysteele 03-12-2021 09:05 AM

I love the Union connection to Labour.
However if they're cutting funding then let's cut their influence and voting at conference.
They'll get nothing better from the Cons or other parties.

Labour members will Just need to cough up more when necessary, if this Union takes this petty line.

Any sort of niggling re Labour and some Union leaders, actually could benefit Labour as the softer or swing voters of other parties think the Unions aren't dominating,or getting away with trying to.
If this woman was happy to see millions handed to a campaign and leader that COULDN'T win.

Yet now would pull the plug on a campaign and policy making not even known or needed yet, with a leader who just may have the ability and chance to end the majority rule of this PM and the Cons.
Then she's perhaps the wrong person to be leading anything in my view.

bots 03-12-2021 09:29 AM

everyone goes on about the dodgy deals the tories do with donors/employers/brown envelopes, quite rightly, but the union money dependent on influencing policy is just as bad, if not worse. It may all be out in the open, but its still a case of ... you can have this money if you do that

joeysteele 03-12-2021 09:36 AM

The Labour party was born from the Union movement.

I have no gripe with the Con donors as long as it's all made known and from who.

The Unions are a big part of the employment process.
Connected strongly to the Labour party.
It seems Cons think Labour shouldn't get any regular income.
While turning a blind eye to the massive donations to their own party.
Known or unknown.

Unless the day comes whereby political parties are state funded.
Which I can't see taxpayers being happy at all about.
Then they need income from other sources.

The political membership of parties could never cover election costs alone.
If the Unions should NOT donate and have consultation and influence on Labour policy.

Then neither too should ANY source be able to donate to the CON party either.
Good luck with getting the Cons to agree to that one.

arista 05-12-2021 10:06 AM

Trevor Phillips (SkyNewsHD)
asked Jim McMahon (Labours New Environment Minister)
a great Question
he asked, "are you going to do a deal with the SNP or Farage?,
to get into power"

Jim said "not really, we just want to get into power"



Great question
as without Scotland
Labour will stay out of power

user104658 05-12-2021 11:01 AM

Sir Keir Starmer & his Labour Party
 
I don’t think the tories are beatable in the UK without SNP coalition of some description. I think it’s genuinely just not possible at this point. And even if you’re a Tory, that’s simply not a good thing, ineffective opposition in parliament is bad for everyone.

arista 05-12-2021 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 11119263)
I don’t think the tories are beatable in the UK without SNP coalition of some description. I think it’s genuinely just not possible at this point. And even if you’re a Tory, that’s simply not a good thing, ineffective opposition in parliament is bad for everyone.

But they have 6 Conservative MP's in Scotland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Conservatives


Labour ONLY has 1.

arista 06-12-2021 11:06 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...8784029426.jpg


Kier getting his Booster Jab

Beso 06-12-2021 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11119442)

That bloke should have gloves on.

arista 06-12-2021 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by over cooked turkey (Post 11119453)
That bloke should have gloves on.



Yes very true

He showed his Card on ITV1HD lunch news
number 3 Vaccine
Moderna

Livia 06-12-2021 02:04 PM

I see Angela Rayner's still in the picture after calling Tories "scum" just before one was stabbed to death. Shameful.

arista 06-12-2021 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11119482)
I see Angela Rayner's still in the picture after calling Tories "scum" just before one was stabbed to death. Shameful.

Yes, she has said Sorry for that remake,
again.


It is sad that Conservative MP was stabbed to death
by a Foreign Terrorist

Cherie 06-12-2021 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11119485)
Yes, she has said Sorry for that remake,
again.


It is sad that Conservative MP was stabbed to death
by a Foreign Terrorist



He was British!


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