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Lee. 11-09-2014 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259260)
the whole of the uk should get to vote as it we affect some outside scotland i say feck off scotland england don't need you
They're certainly acting like they need us :suspect:

user104658 11-09-2014 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 7259615)
They're certainly acting like they need us :suspect:
Exactly. If holding onto the Scottish land and people (only 5 million) is so important to England, then does it not follow that Scotland must be a net gain for the UK as a whole? If the loss would genuinely weaken England on the global stage... it's the only thing that makes sense. It simply CANNOT be about the people - 5 million is a significant number but not a HUGE dent in the UK's overall population - it HAS to be about everything else that Scotland has to offer. And if what Scotland has to offer is that important to a country of 60 million - consider... what must it be worth per-head to our own 5 million?

It's just a shame that this didn't come post-industrialisation. Just imagine how rich Scotland would be now if it had been independent before ANY of the oil had been claimed...

arista 11-09-2014 10:22 AM
Alex is live on Bloomberg
talking with the press of the world

Nedusa 11-09-2014 10:50 AM
Apparently when the total amount of Monies spent on welfare, benefits,NHS etc is divided into the total number of people in the UK, there are some interesting figures.

People living in Scotland receive on average £1,200 per annum per person more than their English conterparts. This extra money goes to fund free prescriptions,free further education and free old age care for all Scottish people.

So they already get a far better deal already and the current Govt is bending over backwards to offer them more to vote No and stay in the Union.

Why ??

Is it a case of keeping the UK punching above it's weight on the World stage, maybe Scotland should leave the Union.

But why would they want to if they have such a good deal, a deal that will only improve after the next round of "Devolution".




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Northern Monkey 11-09-2014 11:22 AM
Lol.Royal Bank of Scotland is planning to base itself in London in the event of a 'Yes' vote.

michael21 11-09-2014 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7259293)
If England could vote for independence then, would you vote for England to become independent from the rest of the UK?
what the hell are you talking about i saying england should also get to vote in the scotland independence referendum which is what this thread is about :shrug:

Niamh. 11-09-2014 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259903)
what the hell are you talking about i saying england should also get to vote in the scotland independence referendum which is what this thread is about :shrug:
why should England get to vote on another countries independence? :think:

michael21 11-09-2014 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7259907)
why should England get to vote on another countries independence? :think:
because as it stands both come under the UK so seem fair all should be able to vote

Niamh. 11-09-2014 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259914)
because as it stands both come under the UK so seem fair all should be able to vote
No it doesn't, Scotland should decide their own future

michael21 11-09-2014 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7259915)
No it doesn't, Scotland should decide their own future
so are you saying the vote does not affect england in anyway :conf:

Kyle 11-09-2014 11:39 AM
Michael it's not our decision. Think of Scotland like you would think of your bird...or sock in your case. If she wants to leave just let her go mate.

michael21 11-09-2014 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7259926)
Michael it's not our decision. Think of Scotland like you would think of your bird...or sock. If she wants to leave just let her go mate.
i want scotland to go it be more fun then

the diggers need to be on stand by :dance:

Niamh. 11-09-2014 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259919)
so are you saying the vote does not affect england in anyway :conf:
Of course it affects England but England forced Scotland to become part of the UK in the first place so it should be Scotlands choice now whether they want to stay or not, don't you think?

michael21 11-09-2014 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7259931)
Of course it affects England but England forced Scotland to become part of the UK in the first place so it should be Scotlands choice now whether they want to stay or not, don't you think?
i did not no that when did this happen

Northern Monkey 11-09-2014 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259939)
i did not no that when did this happen
1707

michael21 11-09-2014 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259940)
1707
time have move on and we have internet now

Kyle 11-09-2014 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259943)
time have move on and we have internet now
I wish you had your own talk show Michael I really do.

Novo 11-09-2014 11:49 AM
Won't stop the Union jack being proudly displayed in Glorious Ibrox

Northern Monkey 11-09-2014 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259896)
Lol.Royal Bank of Scotland is planning to base itself in London in the event of a 'Yes' vote.
Lloyds are also thinking of moving to London in a 'Yes' vote.Lol,Don't think they've thought this through properly have they?All the businesses are gonna piss of to England.

Kyle 11-09-2014 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon (Post 7259947)
Won't stop the Union jack being proudly displayed in Glorious Ibrox
That will never stop us brother.

GSTQ

Lee. 11-09-2014 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7259862)
Apparently when the total amount of Monies spent on welfare, benefits,NHS etc is divided into the total number of people in the UK, there are some interesting figures.

People living in Scotland receive on average £1,200 per annum per person more than their English conterparts. This extra money goes to fund free prescriptions,free further education and free old age care for all Scottish people.

So they already get a far better deal already and the current Govt is bending over backwards to offer them more to vote No and stay in the Union.

Why ??

Is it a case of keeping the UK punching above it's weight on the World stage, maybe Scotland should leave the Union.

But why would they want to if they have such a good deal, a deal that will only improve after the next round of "Devolution".

What you failed to mention is that during that year when Scotland received £1200 more public spending per head, is that we actually generated £1700 more of tax per head.


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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259896)
Lol.Royal Bank of Scotland is planning to base itself in London in the event of a 'Yes' vote.
More scaremongering. The RBS May or may not re-register it's head office in London.. This would be a paper only excercises and operations would not be moved, not would jobs be lost or moved down south.
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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259952)
Lloyds are also thinking of moving to London in a 'Yes' vote.Lol,Don't think they've thought this through properly have they?All the businesses are gonna piss of to England.
More scaremongering again. The head office for lloyds bank is already situated in London, and has been for 100 years.

user104658 11-09-2014 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259952)
Lloyds are also thinking of moving to London in a 'Yes' vote.Lol,Don't think they've thought this through properly have they?All the businesses are gonna piss of to England.
This is a misrepresentation. They have all mentioned "considerations", but of course they'll be considering their position. In reality, it will likely come down to what happens in the few years immediately following independence at which point these large businesses will be able to assess what's best for them financially. Relocating and restaffing is a HUGE expense. None of them are realistically going to do it unless there are even bigger financial implications in staying. Essentially... it'll come down to Scotland offering them sweet enough incentives to stay, which they almost certainly will.

There's a very good reason that many large UK businesses base themselves out of Dublin, Jersey, etc...

Lee. 11-09-2014 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7259931)
Of course it affects England but England forced Scotland to become part of the UK in the first place so it should be Scotlands choice now whether they want to stay or not, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 7259939)
i did not no that when did this happen
Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7259940)
1707
:joker: :joker: :joker:

Novo 11-09-2014 01:23 PM
All the Scottish clubs should apply to play in the English football league quickly, or we should just offer them a place to put the final nail in the SNPs coffin

Lee. 11-09-2014 02:02 PM
Keep a hold of that nail until next Thursday Andy ;) Then we'll see where it's to be hammered


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