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AnnieK 18-10-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6436972)
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Well yes but unfortunately not everyone holds this view, in some quarters, the case has been cracked and they are ready to send them down.

There are an awful lot of discrepancies and what ifs but you do have to hold on to the fact that it is innocent until proven guilty...

Marsh. 18-10-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6436631)
No there was Cadaver scent on Kate's clothes and Maddies soft toy, she said it was on her clothes because of the job she done before she went on holiday and that the scent was on the soft toy because she took that to work with her.

Ah. Bit odd that she'd have the soft toy not only in work but in the vicinity to come onto contact with a dead body.

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6436636)
The original site bandwidth is exceeded since last night but here is another one from google.

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.bl...f-cadaver.html

Thanks for the link.

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6436759)
I know a lot of people are genuinely interested and asking questions to find out more information, but it's the certainty that the McCanns are guilty in some quarters of the internet that is sickening. They've already decided the outcome, so now they only read the information that gets them there, and call everything else lies, media spin, and government protection. Complete confirmation bias.

I agree tbh.

Kizzy 19-10-2013 12:23 AM

I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.

Marsh. 19-10-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6438025)
I don't agree... I think being led by the nose is sickening, nobody educates themselves anymore we are spoonfed the information it is deemed appropriate for us to have and nothing more.
I think it's important to retain as much individuality and impartiality as possible.

That's true. But I think Jesus was referring more to people deciding already whether they're guilty or innocent and then only pay attention to information that corresponds to that viewpoint and automatically rubbishing anything that contradicts it.

Actually educating yourself and making an informed decision is definitely important, I agree with you there.

Kizzy 19-10-2013 01:02 AM

Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

lostalex 19-10-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6438077)
Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

Jords 19-10-2013 01:41 AM

It was an interesting show, I dont think we'll ever get answers but all the best.

chuff me dizzy 19-10-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6438077)
Or, if you look at it another way; Facts...
All links provided on this thread by interested parties are to evidence as presented as part of the case, not heresay or opinion.
Specific information such as witness statements and evidence found at the time and or since.
It is easy to suggest opinions are wrong when it relates to speculation, but when commenting on the actual testimony of those involved it's different I would say.

Opinions and facts are 2 different things Kizzy ,and when you have the facts the rest just falls into place

chuff me dizzy 19-10-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6438094)
umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

Read case files and witness statements ...educate yourself

Kazanne 20-10-2013 11:42 AM

I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...55327273_n.jpg

The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

MTVN 20-10-2013 11:53 AM

What's strange about that pic?

Kazanne 20-10-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6441525)
What's strange about that pic?

Well if you cant see that MTVN,it must just be me:hugesmile:

AnnieK 20-10-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6441501)
I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...55327273_n.jpg

The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

Kazanne 20-10-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by anniek76 (Post 6441559)
How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

They were still in Portugal annie ,I don't know the exact date as I was sent it via email,I will try and find out.

Benjamin 20-10-2013 12:27 PM

Are there any mock pictures of what she would look like now?

Jesus. 20-10-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6441501)
I have to say I really want to believe and feel for these two,just pix like this make it kinda hard.
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...55327273_n.jpg

The McCanns in a rare moment of emotional sincerity shortly after the "abduction" of their daughter.

In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.

Jesus. 20-10-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6441565)
Are there any mock pictures of what she would look like now?

I think there are some in this thread somewhere. I definitely remember seeing them about, but there has been so much stuff recently, I could be mistaken in where I saw them. I know they have definitely been made.

Kazanne 20-10-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6441566)
In that photo, you can clearly see that they have a film crew with them, and you can see quite a lot of staring people in hte background too. I think it's fair to assume that there are probably well wishers or rubberneckers staring at them from in front as well, so maybe they are smiling at them, as if to acknowledge the kindness shown towards them?

I think it would be a couple of very stupid people, who, after murdering their child, decided to go on a smiley walkabout.

I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.

Jesus. 20-10-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6441577)
I didn't say they had murdered her Jesus,and as I said it's probably just me reading the pic wrong.

That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.

Kizzy 20-10-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6438094)
umm, no. everyone in this thread has been talking about the relevant facts to the case, and most of them have been ridiculed because let's be frank, there aren't many FACTS in this case, most of the CRAP presented in this case is just speculation.


The truth is we have no ****ing idea what happened, because there are no eye witnesses, there is no body, there is no hard evidence.

There's basically NOTHING to this case. Just 1 missing girl.

People can get excited about a reinactment on TV all they want, but the fact is, nobody has a ****ing clue what happened to this little girl, and there is no solid evidence to suggest what did happen.

It's still just a tabloid cluster**** from what i can tell.

There are facts alex, as stated there are links to witness statements.
Read them and you'll see the difference between fact and opinion.

Benjamin 20-10-2013 12:49 PM

Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.

Kazanne 20-10-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6441580)
That's fair enough. I thought you were implying it was murder because in the text underneath the pic, you wrote abducted is in quotation marks, which implies something else

But no worries. and I wasn't accusing you of accusing them of murder.

I should have made it clearer the text you refer to came with the pic,so those aren't my words,I can see why you thought that.

Kizzy 20-10-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6441590)
Tbh, Alex is right. There really isn't a lot to go on. There are no actual witnesses or hard evidence to the abduction itself.

That's not the point, the links provided are still factual and not as suggested opinion or heresay.

chuff me dizzy 20-10-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by anniek76 (Post 6441559)
How soon after Maddie went missing was this taken?

2 weeks after Maddies demise

Marsh. 20-10-2013 03:56 PM

Bit unfair to caption a split second photograph.

Like when people are snapped half blinking and made to look like they're blind drunk.


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