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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11325376)

Pretty sure it's first person, too, so I might not even give it a whizz.

It's the same engine as Skyrim and Fallout 4 so you can play in 1st person or 3rd person. To be honest though, re: mods, the "default" 3rd person experience is terrible in those games and you need a few mods active for it to be good so this is likely to be similar.

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11325381)

i took out a pc game pass for £1, and its sitting ready on my pc for the official release

I unfortunately used up my £1 trial years ago :joker:.

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11325384)

I unfortunately used up my £1 trial years ago :joker:.

i had a £1 trial about 3 months ago and i terminated it 2 days before it was due to expire and they gave me another one :laugh:

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11325386)

i had a £1 trial about 3 months ago and i terminated it 2 days before it was due to expire and they gave me another one :laugh:

:oh: Maybe I should try to blag another.

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11325379)

I'm not saying it ruined the game or should be a reason for anyone not to get it, I similarly spend an inordinate amount of time searching for "landing platforms", but I do think the character was immersion-breaking because she didn't make sense. But I am a stickler for the internal consistency of fictional worlds. Basically, it doesn't make sense that a trans witch would still have their male voice. It makes sense for muggles, because it's not always easy to change. In Universe a trans witch would just say "Voicio higherio!" or drink a potion or something, and have a higher voice. Thus, the inclusion of a male-sounding trans female character was for the benefit of the "viewer" at the expense of narrative consistency. That's the sort of shoe-horning I'm not a fan of. But again, I'm slightly OCD about fictional narrative. She was only featured in a couple of scenes so it was hardly game-breaking.

Ahh ok, I don't agree, but I see where you're coming from now. This was my first venture into the HP world, having never watched or read any of the works, so I guess my limited understanding of the world, wouldn't give me your perspective. Seems a bit weird to me because maybe she was happy with her voice and saw no need to change it as she felt comfortable with herself, but like I say, we're coming from different knowledge backgrounds here..

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11325383)

Cheers. 1st person just looks completely off and always feels weird. I did fight through my 1st person aversion for the dishonoured series and absolutely loved every second of gameplay, but never really got used to it.

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11325380)

It's on GamePass so personally I'd say just pay the £7.99 or whatever for a month's sub and play it on that rather than forking out on Steam.

It's Bethesda though so it will inevitably be a 10x better game in a year when the modding community has torn it apart and rebuilt it, and I doubt you can mod the GamePass version fully (script extenders probably violate the EULA) so I'll be buying a copy eventually. But on release I'd try it out on GamePass. It's only a few £.

Think I read somewhere they're encouraging modding across all platforms, but we'll see how that ends up in reality.

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11325394)

Think I read somewhere they're encouraging modding across all platforms, but we'll see how that ends up in reality.

It's complicated because it'll likely be the same as Skyrim and Fallout. The mods can work cross platform but only the more "officially supported" mods, there are more advanced mods that use a sort of plug-in executable file called a script extender, and Sony and XBOX won't allow those on console (because in theory they could be used to jailbreak the consoles for piracy).

It's slightly more complicated but the basic categories would be

"Non script extender mods" = adding *stuff* to the game. Locations, characters, items, buildings, whatever.

"Script extender mods" - adding *functionality* to the game i.e. actually changing how certain things work, how AI functions, adding whole new features.

So the more ambitious mods always tend to use script extender.

The war on transgender

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11333686)

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11333702)

None of your tweet links work for me ‘
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11325314)

That's one hefty fine.:laugh:

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11325341)

That clip is iconic for all of the wrong reasons.:joker:

I'm here for the chaos.:devil:

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11325363)

I haven't played the game as it's not actually out yet - I imagine that similarly to Cyberpunk and BG3 (where you could have a willy on your female character if you wanted) and Hogwarts Legacy (where your male wizard could live in the witch dorm if you wanted) it probably doesn't affect the game at all beyond the character creation screen, and if he just cracked on and made himself a burly male character, he would indeed get to role-play as a burly male character so I agree his response is over the top -- but his response is what it is.

I disagree that it never has an effect on the quality of the media itself and would say that when it's done in a clearly agenda-driven way and doesn't feel naturally part of the media being presented, it does simply make for bad material. Netflix is especially guilty of that at times.

This isn't exactly cancel culture though, cancel culture would be people saying "boycott this/don't watch this, for [reasons]" - it's not the same as people being genuinely put off of things because of a change in content. Disney being the prime example of this right now. Netflix is another. It's also not about celebrating, bemoaning or being indifferent to it - it exists, that much is clear. The dropping revenue is clear. I'm just observing in that sense. For example, I am of course TiBB's biggest feminist but that doesn't mean that I don't recognise that "clear efforts" (what I would call shoehorning) of feminist concepts into things where the audience isn't going to be receptive is going to result in a financial flop. Conversely, the feminist concepts in "Barbie" for example have contributed to it being an absolute box-office runaway smash hit.

These companies do (or should) know their audience and trying to introduce elements that their own audiences don't want in everything is rightly or wrongly in moral terms absolutely tanking the entertainment industry at the moment.

My personal thoughts are that there's a way to be inclusive that's more naturally story-driven and less overtly political, and that makes for ... well ... things that are just more engaging and fun to watch.

NO ONE is going to watch something just because it's inclusive, is worth remembering. Even the people it's trying to include are going to tune out when it starts to affect quality. That's just the facts.

Ignoring Starfield because I haven't played the Game, and it sounds like a reaction over nothing from what I have heard.

When it comes to inclusivity in the entertainment media, I feel that unfortunately a lot of writers use the inclusivity stuff to hide the fact that their product is underwhelming to put it politely, but these hacks know that by being inclusive, they'll have a community willing to defend their product that wouldn't defend the same garbage if it wasn't inclusive.

Obviously you can have great products that are inclusive (look at stuff like Sense8) but for every Wachowskis you'll get a Velma or Cleopatra, where without even watching them you can tell that they're not of the highest quality.

Trans women to be banned from female hospital wards

Health Secretary will use Tory conference to announce proposals pushing back against ‘wokery’ in the NHS

Secretary’s plans to restore “common sense” to the NHS.

On Tuesday, Steve Barclay will announce proposals to push back against
“wokery” in the health service that has led to women’s rights being increasingly sidelined.

The changes would give men and women the right to be cared for on wards
only shared by people of their own biological sex, and to have intimate care
provided by those of the same sex.

Mr Barclay said the plan would mean the return of “a common-sense
approach to sex and equality”, ensuring that women’s dignity was protected
and their voices heard.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ospital-wards/

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11335417)

The changes would give men and women the right to be cared for on wards
only shared by people of their own biological sex, and to have intimate care
provided by those of the same sex.

Mr Barclay said the plan would mean the return of “a common-sense
approach to sex and equality”, ensuring that women’s dignity was protected
and their voices heard.

This is vital and not just from the "trans stuff" angle... increasingly there's a trend of male staff members crying discrimination when female patients request female staff. It should ALWAYS be patient's choice, and professional staff shouldn't be getting huffy about a patient's request.

The same should apply with male patients of course but in general male patients don't have the same issues to contend with when it comes to staff gender (i.e. trauma etc.).

Obviously it can't apply all the way to the top, if a specialist is male/female that's just what they are there won't always be an alternative, but when it comes to physical/personal care if someone asks not to be handled by a certain gender (we'll call a spade a spade; usually men) that should be respected.

The vast majority of gender-confused or "gender-questioning" children grow out
of it, according to a 15-year longitudinal study conducted in the Netherlands,
which tracked more than 2,700 children from the age of 11 to their mid-20s.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKSh5UWb...pg&name=medium

[The vast majority of gender-confused
or "gender-questioning" children grow out
of it, according to a 15-year longitudinal
study conducted in the Netherlands,]

Yes Nicky
this is so wrong in your nation.

They didn't really need a massive study tbh it's fairly obvious if you look at any anecdotal example of groups of 10 to 13 year olds (roughly). Real body dysmorphia and trans people DO exist now, just as they have throughout civilisation, but the massive upswing in gender identity "stuff" post-2020 was, to put it simply, a trend or fad... and as trends or fads do... it moved on.

Unfortunately, small but very loud campaigning groups (Stonewall/Mermaids being the flagship example, but there are others) that existed long before said fad managed to use the illusion of this fad to push through agenda-driven policies at company and government level in various places... and that's going to be harder to untangle.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11437155)

It was pretty damn obvious to be honest ..

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11437250)

It was pretty damn obvious to be honest ..

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....not to the hard-left culture warriors sadly....

"Is this not a ridiculous situation?": Justice Minister Helen McEntee is asked
whether it makes sense for violent biological males who have threatened to
attack women to be able to identify as women under Irish law.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...PttyBKg0NPEg&s

short video with her ducking and diving and letting down all Irish women below

https://x.com/griptmedia/status/1780249357905691096