Jake, to some this is not lovely wobbly old nana, this is an evil tyrant, an arms dealer, a liar and a murderer...
You cannot wave a wand and wipe out 30+ yrs of political and social history.
This woman put the UK in a choke-hold, and even in death she is still squeezing.

No disagreement from me as to that Dezzy at all, in fact I would strongly defend your right to hold and voice that view.

But as I said, no amount of gate-crashing her funeral is going to take that away, and it isn't going to affect her in the slightest... It's going to affect thise who are trying to mourne their mother/nan/sister etc

I fear you may be wasting your well-informed breath, Jake.

That is unfortunate, but unavoidable.
There will be no national outpouring of grief, only a collective sigh of relief.

On a lighter note, I am very sure myself that Margaret Thatcher would be engrossed in this thread.
She would near certainly love the division,the controversy and the range of views.

Mad, I was reading another thread this morning and you said that exact same thing to me before :laugh:

It really is unavoidable, all these people need to do is protest and rally against her on another day

I just copy and paste generic replies I've made before if it's relevant to the thread. :p

Ah I see :p haha

Meant to edit that post actually, is it the CBB10 ratings thread you're on about? :laugh:

That's the one :laugh:

She loved dividing things, the rich and the poor, the north and the south..... :joker:

Abraham Lincoln has it right with “You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”

This debate rages on on this forum and many others, nothing will be solved and I don't think any views will be changed. I personally feel the demonstrations at a funeral distasteful and I will be sickened if people try to violently disrupt the procession or ceremony but people are entitled to voice their feelings but I pray it is peaceful. The eyes of the world will be watching and I would hate people who don't know the history of the strength of feeling judge the citizens of the UK by what happens on Wednesday (obviously if anything, we will not know until then what the situation will be)

I wouldn't presume to speak for the nation, just as many admired Thatcher as despised her

What I can't get my head around, would you if your parent stipulated they wanted a certain type of funeral dismiss their wishes and go ahead and do something entirely different. Are Mark and Carol Thatcher really that weak minded that they cave in to the demands of the current Tory party. Tory Dave said when asked why they were having this type of funeral "what would other countries think of us if we didn't honour MT in this way" when did Dave start worrying about the neighbours and what they thought..:joker:

I posted this the other day, The quote is you can fool not please though annie :)
I agree with your sentiments, it will be too easy for those who seek to detract from the issue to point bony fingers of 'faux morality'.

Where is the evidence to support this theory?... :)

God damn it, I always get things wrong. I should probably pipe down again

You don't really need evidence, it's common knowledge that she was going to have supporters along with the people who despised her

7PM tonight Ch4HD and Ch4

Margaret: Death of a Revolutionary

[Martin Durkin presents his radical "thesis"
that Margaret Thatcher was a working class
revolutionary, and that she believed
capitalism was in the interests of ordinary people,
not the toffs]

Haha, no I had to look, lot's of people use please instead of fool :)
I agree with you whatever is said or done on Wednesday will be misconstrued as some heartless anarchic act so it would be counterproductive unfortunately.
How about Tuesday?... She could be rolled past the discarded placards of miners... just like old times?

She was delusional so there is every reason to believe she thought this to be true...

I can speak for myself and certainly my Brothers too that our Parents wishes will be done to the letter of what they said as to their funerals.
Nothing and no one will or could persuade us otherwise,I myself would actually see that as dishonouring our Parents wishes were we to.
Wishes as to a funeral, and so in fact, last wishes should be that from the person who made them, no matter who they are or what they were in life.

You are right, that is what is wrong also with this now almost celebrity show of who's who coming on Wednesday with the use too of some public funding.
I find all that highly distasteful and also yes,disrespectful even to Margaret Thatchers own wishes.

This is Martin Durkin
saying it tonight 7PM CH4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...on_director%29

And Durkin
was a Communist.