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Adamw92 30-07-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.
Well said too...she should last longer but her haters will see that that will not happen but 58 days is better than thepossibly 44 she would have lasted if she went 2 weeks ago instead of Karly, atleast 58 is over half way

muchadoaboutnothing 30-07-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Adamw92
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Originally posted by Arneldo
At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.
Well said too...she should last longer but her haters will see that that will not happen but 58 days is better than thepossibly 44 she would have lasted if she went 2 weeks ago instead of Karly, atleast 58 is over half way
Yes I agree. She is very much part of the BB this year and it would be a shame to see her go.

Sunny_Tsu 30-07-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Tom

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.
Because other people ARE NOT doing the same. You have to lie and twist things to even come close to what Noirin has done and it's still a paper-thin excuse.

She's a cock-teasing attention ***** who cares about no one but herself.

PaulyJ 30-07-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
simplistic and manipulative thread

I can see your attraction to her
The fact's are usually very simple, what many are using to scold Noirin are nothing more than mind reading, and crystal ball gazing, she did x and y and "obviously" she did it because of "that"

This is not the way to judge a person which will suffer much hate and ridicuel for her appearance on BB. Judge with a clear head, facts in your post's less speculation and maybe you will attain a fair perspective. Failing that follow the path of least resistance and read your tea leaves a bit more.

Callum. 30-07-2009 05:21 PM

Someone speaks sense on here. :dance:

BB_Eye 30-07-2009 05:22 PM

I for one never have and never will call her a slut. She is just a very horrible person with no regard for the feelings of others.

Sunny_Tsu 30-07-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by PaulyJ
The fact's are usually very simple, what many are using to scold Noirin are nothing more than mind reading, and crystal ball gazing, she did x and y and "obviously" she did it because of "that"

This is not the way to judge a person which will suffer much hate and ridicuel for her appearance on BB. Judge with a clear head, facts in your post's less speculation and maybe you will attain a fair perspective. Failing that follow the path of least resistance and read your tea leaves a bit more.
Yes, we must be imagining Noirin leading people on saying "We're just friends" then putting her tongue down her "friend's" throat and getting into bed with him. Only in the delusional Noirin fan universe is this normal friend behaviour.

She leads them on till they're emotionally invested and then she shuts them down. Cold hearted bitch and I can't wait for Firday when she's called a sociopath.

30stone 30-07-2009 05:39 PM

Agree with the first post.
Someone that knows a flirty woman lol.

AhmedFan2004 30-07-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
I don't think many see her as a slut, per se.

Moreso selfish, manipulative, narcissistic, inconsiderate, attention-seeking, uses sexual powers to re-boost her power and status, uses men as lapdogs to cater to her needs, etc.

The conscensus, or indeed issue, isn't her sexual activity. She is renowned as a c*cktease; relatively opposing to the idea of being a slut.

AhmedFan2004 30-07-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by BB_Eye
I for one never have and never will call her a slut. She is just a very horrible person with no regard for the feelings of others.
Yes, it's her demeanour and behaviour towards others, that's terrible ...

shams79 30-07-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
yes when you put is like that it is most unfair to label her to a women of the night, but you have to look at her intentions, these other have not lead or encouraged this sort of behaviour and in all fairness Noirin has.:eureka::cloud::cloud:

=-Incognito-= 30-07-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!

Tom4784 30-07-2009 05:54 PM

People call her a slut because they don't like her and want to justify their hate. Tom is absolutely right, everyone who picks Noirin up on her behavior ARE hypocrites if they don't say anything about Sophie or Siavash.

rusticgal 30-07-2009 05:56 PM

Theres flirting with someone and there is snogging and sleeping with someone.... she took it beyond flirting.Shes got her man now she doesn't give a toss about anyone else.
She is one hell of a bitch.

Shasown 30-07-2009 05:56 PM

Slut is also defined as a women of loose morals, or, a slovenly, dirty woman, or, a prostitute.

Slovenly means careless untidy

So in some ways slut is quite fitting.

Depends on your understanding and the context of the word.

Tom 30-07-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Cybele

First of all, no matter how many reasons I and others give you, your mind is not open to anything that is not in Noirin's favor, so I won't bother.

As to your second comment, I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.
I will accept things that arne't in Noirin's favour and if you've read my posts properly you'll see that I accept my favourites have flaws.

I beg to differ about that comment. There is usually a hated female at one given time and before the Noirin bandwagon arrived it was Lisa. When Noirin goes tomorrow it will be back to Lisa or on to Bea.

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Originally posted by shams79

yes when you put is like that it is most unfair to label her to a women of the night, but you have to look at her intentions, these other have not lead or encouraged this sort of behaviour and in all fairness Noirin has.:eureka::cloud::cloud:
People use Noirin's "I'd fuck Tom every day" comment as things against her. Freddie has said about Angel "if we were in the outside world, we'd just have sex" and about Bea "she'd be over my shoulder and into my bedroom". How is that any different? The intention is the same :wink:

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Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!
Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.

MaratSafinForever 30-07-2009 06:27 PM

and your favourite is sophie, you're the hypocrite

Cybele 30-07-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by Cybele
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by Cybele
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage
and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.
And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.
But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.
I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.
I beg to differ about that comment. There is usually a hated female at one given time and before the Noirin bandwagon arrived it was Lisa. When Noirin goes tomorrow it will be back to Lisa or on to Bea.
Uh... I'm sorry but what you said has nothing to do with what I originally said. Please go back and review. What I SAID was that you didn't need to use Bea's behavior as an excuse for or a diversion away from Noirin's behavior because if Bea upset enough people, then she would be dealt with when she came up for eviction.

What does who is left in the house have to do with that? You mention Lisa being hated in the house, but she has not been up for eviction.

If you want people to accept your arguments that Noirin isn't a bad person then you really need to stop using the X does this argument. Regardless of what anyone else does in the house male or female, it does not change what Noirin has done in the house. And as I said, if someone pissed everyone off enough, they will be dealt with at eviction time. But THIS WEEK we are faced with Marcus and Noirin. One of them WILL be dealt with tomorrow.

=-Incognito-= 30-07-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Tom

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Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!
Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.
You called Marcus:

Word Origin & History

pervert (v.)
c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere "corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere "to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of the sexual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis), originally esp. of homosexuals. Perv, short for sexual pervert (n.), is first recorded 1944.


So yes there's a big fat double standard.

Tom 30-07-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Cybele

Uh... I'm sorry but what you said has nothing to do with what I originally said. Please go back and review. What I SAID was that you didn't need to use Bea's behavior as an excuse for or a diversion away from Noirin's behavior because if Bea upset enough people, then she would be dealt with when she came up for eviction.

What does who is left in the house have to do with that? You mention Lisa being hated in the house, but she has not been up for eviction.

If you want people to accept your arguments that Noirin isn't a bad person then you really need to stop using the X does this argument. Regardless of what anyone else does in the house male or female, it does not change what Noirin has done in the house. And as I said, if someone p****d everyone off enough, they will be dealt with at eviction time. But THIS WEEK we are faced with Marcus and Noirin. One of them WILL be dealt with tomorrow.
I'm not using Bea's behaviour to mask Noirin's. I'm just asking why is Bea getting away with it? And I was saying that instead of being "dealt with" when shes up for eviction, once the bandwagon female has left the forum jumps on to someone new. This is what I meant by the Lisa comment, not that she is liked in the house. By the way she should have been up for eviction last week so can't be that popular in the house :thumbs:

I don't want people to accept my argument that Noirin is a bad person, I just think the forum is hypocritical when it comes to slating housemates for something that others have done, yet the rest get away with it!!

Tom 30-07-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
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Originally posted by Tom

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Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!
Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.
You called Marcus:

Word Origin & History

pervert (v.)
c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere "corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere "to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of the sexual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis), originally esp. of homosexuals. Perv, short for sexual pervert (n.), is first recorded 1944.


So yes there's a big fat double standard.
I'd be hypocritical if I was saying we shouldn't be calling housemates. I'm arguing something completely different :whistle:

philmurph 30-07-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?
not at all but no one in the house is without fault unlike all the angels posting on this site nobody appears to have ever made a mistake:angel:

luminoussun 30-07-2009 06:39 PM

If you look someone has already got 60+ reasons for evicting noirin and only one is slut.

PixieBoots 30-07-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
Blah blah blah - clearly people don't understand the meaning of the word slut.
At best Noirin is a minxy tease. At worst a manipulative, self-obsessed bore.

Cybele 30-07-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by philmurph
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Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?
not at all but no one in the house is without fault unlike all the angels posting on this site nobody appears to have ever made a mistake:angel:
I agree with you to a certain extent. Like, for example, yesterday I was trying to explain why living in the house must be very difficult for Marcus. And I tried to point out that if any of us was in the same situation, who knows how we would react. I'd venture that nearly all of us have not had to have our heart broken on national television while confined with both the woman who broke your heart AND the best friend who is snogging her in a 3 room house. I give him a bit of compassion for having to endure that. But, of course, my words fell on deaf ears.


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