Without live feed of David stealing, how can you accuse him? Goes both ways Vicky.

Im sure freddie feels they are valid points, especially about david being friends with lisa, after he saw how she behaved in the start.

He sees lisa and david as singling bea out, like lisas gang did with him in the past. He will see it like this as he doesnt see beas stirring of things. So he felt the need to say something. As he doesnt want his friend going through what he went through.


[Edit] I believe this answers kisywisys post also. Saying freddie was having a go, not sticking up for his friend.

There does, with some reference images to Freddie and Marcus ... would be spot on. :thumbs:

Im not the one accusing him of stealing. Im saying I believe marcus and freddie. They accused him, not me, and they are there all the time. I chose to believe them over david.

I totaly agree with you on every point...

Did you also notice how Lisa walked in through one door and did her "Blah, Blah, Blah", then walked out the other door before anyone REALLY had a chance to say anything to her!

Gone in 20 seconds!

when freddie spoke to marcus by the pool a few days ago about the missing food, his words were, "i've got a feeling, nothing more that a feeling that david is stealing the food" they have got no proof and the whole thing started because of freddie's 'feeling'

marcus and freddie then told bea what they thought and she didn't know what they were talking about. then she started making digs at david about the food. she was going on what marcus and freddie told her. those three have talked their suspicions to into fact

i prefer lisa to them three i have watched that video and freddie bea and marcus was bang out of order. freddie is going down becus of marcus and bea!! oh and bea was snuggling up to freddie on live feed tonight hoping the public would see a growing romance and keep her in she is worst than noirin.

Fred did not see him...Marcus told him.

Feeling you have valids points and deciding to act upon them with little or no evidence, in front of a big audience like that, demonstrates to me that Freddie has gotten a little too big for his boots. He had no right to question somebody over the friendships they've made in the house. Shows to me that Freddie is the guy with the mind firmly fixed on the game.

Im sorry, if I was in the same situation, (which is quite hard to imagine as I would never of allowed lisa to bully me in the first place, I would have planted her) I would have done the same thing.

Maybe not in front of a group, but what he said.

And of course he has his mind on the game, they all do.


In real life, if I someone bullied me, and then moved onto my friend (but I didnt know it was my friends fault) i would also say something, which is the same thing really.

Then i agree that it was norty of Bea, Freddie and Marcus to go off on David with no actual proof. :thumbs:

But i still love Marcus and want him to win :bigsmile:

Yeah, freddie did not say anything about the food though. His point was totally different. Bea brought up the food again.

But thats the thing Bea is doing the exact same thing Lisa did and for Freddie to play along with that makes him the bigger fool out of it cause he should understand what it is like to be in the situation and should try resolve it rather than provoke it along and create a bigger situation out of it! A person who has been Bullied should know not to take another Bullys side and to take a bullys side it makes them a lesser person!

It's insane to suggest that David went to Lisa as part of some mad strategy to win the show. I mean, that's a bit of a stretch considering Davids mental capacity and I'm struggling to see how anyone could fashion a victory out of an alliance with Lisa.

He can't see the wood for the trees now that Bea is the apple of his eye. She's manipulating that lot completely. What has David done to merit this kind of attack? She's the one planting all the seeds of doubt in peoples minds.

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Er ok so you agree with the people that accused him of stealing food meaning you believe he stole the food...without seeing it live you believe it...
so you agree with my post:puzzled:

He does not see Bea as a bully though. He does see her as being picked on by david, from her ridiculous display of being upset yesterday...

No. Stop trying to twist my words. I did not see him steal it. But they are there. They are more likely to know than us. :rolleyes:

He can make friends with whomever he wishes, just like Bea is creating an army of delusional lapdogs who will run around her and agree with her, just to gain appeasement from her. How pathetic.

He obviously likes Lisa and they have a lot in common, especially smoking. Infact it shows HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT WINNING, to risk making friends with an unpopular HM (from the outside view).

Freddie is turning pathetic and nasty because he's so engrossed in just playing out this fantasy scenario of him protecting his princess. He's become very biased, deluded and brainwashed.

He has blind spots towards Bea's manipulative ways and scheming actions. He fails to see her awful intentions, yet it's right infront of him! :shrug:

The food was the catalyst though? Without that, it was just 2 groups having a barney because they dislike each other. although i can understand why. Lisa bullied freddie and David absolutely dominated Hira in a scary way when she had the task.
I'll watch the vid tmorra and rejoin the dogfight. Right now it's my bedtime! Gnite y'all :xyxwave: :spin2:

But David was upset too, he wouldn't listen to David and take his opinion of the matter into hand and only decided to take Bea's displays on what happened into consideration and to that then take on someone for been friends with another person cause they bullied him! He doesn't realise him and David are actually in the same situation and is making David out to be in the wrong which infact maybe the both of them are and need to stear clear of both of them! David is blind to what lisa did, Freddie is blind to what Bea has done!

do u have the link.

I know its through Bea indirectly. As shes making out shes being bullied. This is why freddie stuck up for her. He thinks shes being picked on, and believes lisa is behind it pulling davids strings. Which is half true, lisa does keep winding things up.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...3bc069/play.c4


And Ive transcripted the conversation aswell, the link for that is on the front page, it is as much word for word as i could get it :kiss:

Yeah, the difference being though, of course, that david is not blind to what lisa did, as he watched it :wink:

Freddie is letting his heart rule his head IMO...and it will end bad, but i still dont see how people are blaming freddie for it, I really dont.

Of course Bea has pushed Freddie in this direction of thinking, but that doesn't excuse his attack on David there in front of everyone. It was a moment of stupidity on his part, and kinda illustrates where his mind is right now. And it's not a good place to be.