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kisywisy 05-08-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by zotec
I dont think he did himself justice,much as I like him compared to the rest I think he got a bit hysterical and over the top. Much of what he said about Lisas gameplan backfiring because shes up for the first time is true and I think Rodrigo s reaction was also very telling.They didnt think how he felt when they put him up week after week
erm... there WAS no gameplan to get bea and marcus nominated!! they were nominated by the house because of how they've behaved in the house

if you want to talk about gameplans, how about bea influencing freddie's nominations by trying to drag david's name through the mud by labelling him a bully?? it worked with freddie. plus, marcus and freddie have been voting strategically for the vast majority of the show by wanting to break up lisa's group. they are just pissed off that THEIR gameplan didn't go to plan

rayheartbliss 05-08-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by LaRainbow
If you say "I've always liked Freddie" but then in the next breath say "but after tonight I can't stand him" then I am less than inclined to believe your original statement. You don't just stop liking someone you've liked for nine weeks over one argument - if you do then you're being highly judgemental and not giving a fair chance.

Also, can we please stop jibing at each other, particularly the 'keep up, love' rubbish - if you can't get your opinions across without resorting to being condescending then it doesn't say much for your opinions.
But...but...Halfwit is condescending and you like him and his opinions....:whistle:

You CAN stop liking someone if that someone turns mean, mocking and nasty and makes your skin crawl. It happened to me.
Happened to me too... couple of times...
hes been my fave for 7 weeks or so now.....its been couple of days that hes growing off me...when he defends bea even when shes wrong was so annoying

its only tonight that i've come to a conclusion t hat me dont like him at all

:D

LaRainbow 05-08-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by LaRainbow
If you say "I've always liked Freddie" but then in the next breath say "but after tonight I can't stand him" then I am less than inclined to believe your original statement. You don't just stop liking someone you've liked for nine weeks over one argument - if you do then you're being highly judgemental and not giving a fair chance.

Also, can we please stop jibing at each other, particularly the 'keep up, love' rubbish - if you can't get your opinions across without resorting to being condescending then it doesn't say much for your opinions.
But...but...Halfwit is condescending and you like him and his opinions....:whistle:

You CAN stop liking someone if that someone turns mean, mocking and nasty and makes your skin crawl. It happened to me.
It's your opinion that he's condescending - it's certainly not mine.

And if you don't like Halfwit after one night, when Lisa has been awful for nine weeks, I really don't see your reasoning behind it.

Lastly - to whoever asked me who I was referring to - I didn't quote because there were a couple of remarks made on this thread about other posters (including me) so I didn't have time to quote them all. They must know who they are.

rayheartbliss 05-08-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by zotec
I dont think he did himself justice,much as I like him compared to the rest I think he got a bit hysterical and over the top. Much of what he said about Lisas gameplan backfiring because shes up for the first time is true and I think Rodrigo s reaction was also very telling.They didnt think how he felt when they put him up week after week
erm... there WAS no gameplan to get bea and marcus nominated!! they were nominated by the house because of how they've behaved in the house

if you want to talk about gameplans, how about bea influencing freddie's nominations by trying to drag david's name through the mud by labelling him a bully?? it worked with freddie. plus, marcus and freddie have been voting strategically for the vast majority of the show by wanting to break up lisa's group. they are just p****d off that THEIR gameplan didn't go to plan
exatcly....

AhmedFan2004 05-08-2009 10:47 PM

I've washed my hands with Freddie and Bea. Both are horrible and pathetic.

Lisa, David, Rodrigo and Hira get my support. They keep it real. :thumbs:

kisywisy 05-08-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by questain
If the public dont like freddie how come he escaped 5 evictions
they felt sorry for him being bullied. he's not being bullied now. if anything, he's starting to bully himself

tutifruti 05-08-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by questain
If the public dont like freddie how come he escaped 5 evictions
because he was hiding his true self at the time because he had no back up, even his so called friends were nominating him. Now with support, well you saw tonoght!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Double standards on these forums.

jet 05-08-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by zotec
I dont think he did himself justice,much as I like him compared to the rest I think he got a bit hysterical and over the top. Much of what he said about Lisas gameplan backfiring because shes up for the first time is true and I think Rodrigo s reaction was also very telling.They didnt think how he felt when they put him up week after week
erm... there WAS no gameplan to get bea and marcus nominated!! they were nominated by the house because of how they've behaved in the house

if you want to talk about gameplans, how about bea influencing freddie's nominations by trying to drag david's name through the mud by labelling him a bully?? it worked with freddie. plus, marcus and freddie have been voting strategically for the vast majority of the show by wanting to break up lisa's group. they are just p****d off that THEIR gameplan didn't go to plan
You are spot on! Great post! :thumbs2:

LaRainbow 05-08-2009 10:50 PM

It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.

jet 05-08-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by LaRainbow
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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by LaRainbow
If you say "I've always liked Freddie" but then in the next breath say "but after tonight I can't stand him" then I am less than inclined to believe your original statement. You don't just stop liking someone you've liked for nine weeks over one argument - if you do then you're being highly judgemental and not giving a fair chance.

Also, can we please stop jibing at each other, particularly the 'keep up, love' rubbish - if you can't get your opinions across without resorting to being condescending then it doesn't say much for your opinions.
But...but...Halfwit is condescending and you like him and his opinions....:whistle:

You CAN stop liking someone if that someone turns mean, mocking and nasty and makes your skin crawl. It happened to me.
It's your opinion that he's condescending - it's certainly not mine.

And if you don't like Halfwit after one night, when Lisa has been awful for nine weeks, I really don't see your reasoning behind it.

Lastly - to whoever asked me who I was referring to - I didn't quote because there were a couple of remarks made on this thread about other posters (including me) so I didn't have time to quote them all. They must know who they are.

It's your opinion that Lisa has been awful for nearly 9 weeks - it's certainly not mine.

tutifruti 05-08-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by LaRainbow
It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.
Hes just getting started!!!!!!!!!!

deeko1973 05-08-2009 10:53 PM

Personally I thought it was *****ing hilarious tonight... it all kicked off big time! This is what the show has been needing all along.

Rodrigo is a dumbass annoying twat. He never listens to anyone and needs to shut up and stop whining like a stupid arse. He's just so self obsessed and scared because he's now up for eviction. He was blaming Marcus for the whole thing but not even listening to anyone explaining that it had nothing to do with Marcus.

David is a ******. He needs to shut up as well. His head is so far up Lisa's arse he can't even see out any more.

Lisa is a pain in the ass... has been all along. Adds nothing to the show and is a moaning cow for most of the time she is awake. She thinks she is it and thinks she should automatically be listened to and believed whenever there is an argument. In reality she is stupid and doesn't have anything useful to say.

Marcus was hilarious telling David what he thought of him. Taking no **** as usual.

Freddy for once was standing up for himself and not sitting back taking everyone's ****. Good on him. Finally someone tells lisa to shut up cos she's talking shite. I totally loved the way he was putting her down and she wasn't even realising cos she was too busy calling him a prick. Go Freddy!

Finally some heated arguments and no namby-pambying around with everyone hugging each other then talking about them behind their back when they leave the room.

One of the best shows so far in this poor series!!

bettybites 05-08-2009 10:59 PM

I usually love Freddie, but I thought he went a little too far. And as for Lisa and David having a gameplan, I really think he's over thinking things. Lisa is just a bitch, ya know? He's giving them too much credit.

golden 05-08-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by LaRainbow
It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.
I don't think it's about mistakes...it's about what people say or how they say it. Halfwit has been saying quite a few things that have been the cause of me disliking him. I don't think this argument is the reason some people dislike him..I think the dislike has been slowly growing up to this point. Tis may have been the last straw for some people.

kisywisy 05-08-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by LaRainbow
It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.
I don't think it's about mistakes...it's about what people say or how they say it. Halfwit has been saying quite a few things that have been the cause of me disliking him. I don't think this argument is the reason some people dislike him..I think the dislike has been slowly growing up to this point. Tis may have been the last straw for some people.
exactly. he's not the same gentle soul people fell in love with

he has changed since bea got his claws in. this argument was the last straw for me. i can't justify how he's acting anymore

AhmedFan2004 05-08-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by LaRainbow
It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.
Exactly, Lisa has been herself and hasn't hidden anything. We all know her.

It's Bea/Halfwit who are the sneaky ones, using their intellect and craftiness to fool the public and play the martry role, to a tee.

And yes, they keep it real. Lisa said everything to Halfwit's face in the early weeks. And she just did it again in the HL episode.

It was Halfwit, running into the garden, running into the bathroom, and doing his mocking/taunting/disrespecting to other HMs.

He's pathetic, and Bea is the evil instigator behind it all. David is as honest as sliced bread, he's a Yorkshire lad up for a laugh. Freddie is pathetic.

MonkeyDoodle 05-08-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by BB22
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Originally posted by Arneldo
Tonight was proof of what I have been saying all along. Halfwit is an arrogant arsehole.

I'm gutted it's a vote to save - otherwise I'd say he would have had a really good chance of going after tonight.

Hira needs to go this week - only to show Halfwit that Lisa and David can stay.

Actually, I can't wait till his precious Bea is evicted- and I hope it's over a housemate like David.

I really cannot stand him.
This is completely ridiculous. Freddie was fairly reasonable under the circumstances. And laughing at Lisa's croaking rant was just about the best possible response.
he was reasonable??

did you hear him?? "mmmm yeah oh lisa you're making me come!!" what the **** was that all about??

next time freddie is up (prob next week) i'm voting him out
same here!! He behaved like a spoiled child, which he is! sitting there saying over and over "big brother hates you" to Lisa. who the ***** does he think he is? And then he said about evictions "I'm staying people like me" not any more arrogant smug *****wit and he can take his evil tart troll Bea with him, yuck:yuk:

jtalh2003 05-08-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by rayheartbliss
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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by LaRainbow
If you say "I've always liked Freddie" but then in the next breath say "but after tonight I can't stand him" then I am less than inclined to believe your original statement. You don't just stop liking someone you've liked for nine weeks over one argument - if you do then you're being highly judgemental and not giving a fair chance.

Also, can we please stop jibing at each other, particularly the 'keep up, love' rubbish - if you can't get your opinions across without resorting to being condescending then it doesn't say much for your opinions.
But...but...Halfwit is condescending and you like him and his opinions....:whistle:

You CAN stop liking someone if that someone turns mean, mocking and nasty and makes your skin crawl. It happened to me.
Happened to me too... couple of times...
hes been my fave for 7 weeks or so now.....its been couple of days that hes growing off me...when he defends bea even when shes wrong was so annoying

its only tonight that i've come to a conclusion t hat me dont like him at all

:D
what you got to remember is that what you see of bea and what freddie sees are 2 different things
you will see things he will never be aware of because he was not present at the time and he wont see them till he gets out

MonkeyDoodle 05-08-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by LaRainbow
It's not double standards - it's basing your opinion on NINE WEEKS of footage - Halfwit made ONE mistake tonight but Lisa has made plenty.

And AhmedFan - they David and Lisa 'keep it real'? No, they bitch and whine, but are too scared to properly confront people about how they feel.
wrong-o pal, David stood right up to toenail eating, nose picking bully Marcus.

I don't care for David but he owned Marcus tonight, good for him!

jet 05-08-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by deeko1973
Personally I thought it was *****ing hilarious tonight... it all kicked off big time! This is what the show has been needing all along.

Rodrigo is a dumbass annoying t***. He never listens to anyone and needs to shut up and stop whining like a stupid arse. He's just so self obsessed and scared because he's now up for eviction. He was blaming Marcus for the whole thing but not even listening to anyone explaining that it had nothing to do with Marcus.

David is a ******. He needs to shut up as well. His head is so far up Lisa's arse he can't even see out any more.

Lisa is a pain in the ass... has been all along. Adds nothing to the show and is a moaning cow for most of the time she is awake. She thinks she is it and thinks she should automatically be listened to and believed whenever there is an argument. In reality she is stupid and doesn't have anything useful to say.

Marcus was hilarious telling David what he thought of him. Taking no **** as usual.

Freddy for once was standing up for himself and not sitting back taking everyone's ****. Good on him. Finally someone tells lisa to shut up cos she's talking s****. I totally loved the way he was putting her down and she wasn't even realising cos she was too busy calling him a prick. Go Freddy!

Finally some heated arguments and no namby-pambying around with everyone hugging each other then talking about them behind their back when they leave the room.

One of the best shows so far in this poor series!!
Seems you were watching a different version though! :rolleyes:

AhmedFan2004 05-08-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by MonkeyDoodle]

same here!! He behaved like a spoiled child, which he is! sitting there saying over and over "big brother hates you" to Lisa. who the **** does he think he is? And then he said about evictions "I'm staying people like me" not any more arrogant smug *****wit and he can take his evil tart troll Bea with him, yuck:yuk:
Yes, he was so smug and arrogant saying how the public love him and how he's invincible. Then resulting to mocking/taunting/deriding others. He's SO BITTER that Lisa beats him tactically in nominations every week ... he gets outsmarted by her.

Lisa and David are my faves for this week. RING! :thumbs:

Blink_Me 05-08-2009 11:21 PM

Yeah.... let's vote for David and Lisa so Bea can go, and then Freddie will be liked again. It will happen, because that bitch is definitely getting Freddie down.

deeko1973 05-08-2009 11:22 PM

I was certainly seeing a different thing to what you were seeing...

Think I'm in the majority tho! :whistle:

AhmedFan2004 05-08-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Blink_Me
Yeah.... let's vote for David and Lisa so Bea can go, and then Freddie will be liked again. It will happen, because that bitch is definitely getting Freddie down.
He won't be liked again.

The vision of seeing Bea go, Halfwit crushed and Lisa delighted is SO BEAUTIFUL! :thumbs2:

halfacrown 05-08-2009 11:40 PM

Freddie was clearly in the right and Lisa didn't like it.


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