The homophobia in this thread is outrageous. There's plenty of options available for gay people to become parents. There's surrogacy and adoption for a start. I say if he wants to become a parent and he thinks he can do a good job of it then why not?

Maybe if Charlie was in a serious, committed relationship and wanted to have kids, it'd be a different arguement. Strikes me he sees having kids like having a new fashion accessory. The one who's rights people should be focusing on is the potential child.

I think that sums it up very nicely indeed. :hug:

Spot on!

The child's wellbeing must always come first. Homophobia is a no-no :nono: but just stop and think for a moment.

Child A: What's your dad's name?
Child B: Charlie
Child A: What's your mum's name?
Child B: John.
Child A: Eh??????

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you sad idiot

for a start, he's hardly making plans right now to have children, he's looking into the future, like a lot of people do. how many times have we all had that conversation??

as for the dad's name, mum's name comment, is it not obvious that the child would have 2 dads?? i think a child raised with gay parents will have the advantage of growing up knowing that homosexuality isn't something to be feared or to discriminate against.

he can still father a child

But may themselves suffer ridicule and discrimination from their peers. Children can be cruel and tend not to be as "politically correct" as their elders would like them to be.

I am betting most on here are happy they have a dad & mum - not a dad & dad or a mum & mum?

i'll also bet a lot of people on here are from broken homes and themselves have 2 mums/dads (step parents). remember single parent families were also shunned at one time.

children are at risk of being picked on for lots of things. it says more about the way they are raised than anything (the bullies). if they are raised in an intolerant environment, they are more likely to be intolerant of others and their differences.

i know one of the girls in my daughter's class is being raised by her gay father and his longterm partner. she's a popular girl. i know that wouldn't be the 'norm' but she's a very well adjusted little girl. and she goes to a catholic school!!

i've brought my daughter up to know that it's ok for women to love women and men to love men. and she knows that they can have children too because of her friend in class. she's got no problem with it. love is love at the end of the day

It is the kind of attitudes expressed by certain people in this thread which ensure that children in unusual circumstances continue to face ridicule. Such ridicule cannot then, on pain of a form of circularity, be used to justify those very attitudes.

Charlie… Bwahahhahahhhahahahaha… Children looking after Children :nono: