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Appearance_Of_A_Junky 26-08-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by BBfan46
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Originally posted by TurtleSoup
It's quite funny they reference Marcus when he's one of the most watchable housemates.
Actually all he does is sit under a quilt and ***k. Not exactly exciting.
Thats all I do

IheartBB 26-08-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by keithafc
The problem is they aren't getting the viewers in they need to keep it going year in year out and many people are bored of it. I ain't even the biggest of fan's of BB. Why am i still watching it? For Marcus, if he wasn't in anymore, i'd stop watching and most likely woulnd't be on here posting about BB.

The house needs big charcters and we have people hating Marcus who is by FAR the biggest one in the house and people wonder why people aren't watching? That's one of the big reasons, along with shabby producing and some other thing's like the LF of course who people did like.

But the whole thing is way too PC. They proved that when they called Marcus to the diary room to try and grill him and ended up looking stupid.
The lack of live feed and very little media interest since the Shilpa Shetty incident have contributed to the low viewing figures. Plus it's on for too long. 7 days a week, for 13 whole weeks is just too much for a casual viewer. That's the reason why X-factor and Britains got talent get so many viewers, it's only on once a week or only on for a short amount of time with HUGE media interest and hype from the production team. Channel 4 did not hype this years big brother at all. What happened to the sneak preview adverts that ran on channel 4 weeks before the show even began? The show taking a break would be the best thing for it. When it returns in a few year, the media will be interested again as talent shows like X-factor would have gone down the same road as big brother and will be looking for the next hot topic. With awesome twists and some major advertising, BB could be revitalised, if only for a short while, in a few years time.

IheartBB 26-08-2009 12:23 AM

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This only means BB is over for channel 4. I'm sure some other channel will buy the rights to it, even if it does change the format a little, Big Brother will live!
What Channel will one to take a programme which is failing to attract viewers? ITV? Forget about it, they have other show's, BBC? NO CHANCE.

We have to face it, the show is coming to an end.
Sky1 do a pretty good job of taking channel 4's failing shows :shrug: E4, Living TV, channel 5... to name a few

keithafc 26-08-2009 12:28 AM

No one is going to subscribe to Sky to watch Big Brother. Let's not kid ourselves, like some one has said above, taking a break won't do much good either.


The show has simply ran it's course. Some of the biggest dick head's in british society have came from the show and made well over a million from it and have very little talent. Just look at Jade goody, how the hell did she make the amount she did? She was as thick as a brick, no disrespect and all given that she has passed away now.

tpau21 26-08-2009 12:31 AM

so what is there going to be bb11

IheartBB 26-08-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by keithafc
No one is going to subscribe to Sky to watch Big Brother. Let's not kid ourselves, like some one has said above, taking a break won't do much good either.
Who said anything about subscribing to sky specifically for BB? Sky already has millions of subcribers.

tpau21 26-08-2009 12:34 AM

the only way they have a chance of getting ratings up is bb all stars...and i mean hardly any bb7 - bb10 characters

bb1 - bb6 that will get the old fans back

keithafc 26-08-2009 12:34 AM

Yeah but Big Brother is hardly going to be a big pull in for them is it? They have Skysports, Sky movies etc. Big Brother for me would just FAIL on sky.

stickydatepudding 26-08-2009 12:36 AM

- No live feed.
- Evictions talk allowed.
- Housemates given outside information (the magazines).
- Housemates given day trips out in the real world.
- Allowing block voting to go unpunished.
- A house full of assholes.

What did they expect?

IheartBB 26-08-2009 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by keithafc
Yeah but Big Brother is hardly going to be a big pull in for them is it? They have Skysports, Sky movies etc. Big Brother for me would just FAIL on sky.
You'd be suprised. Anything that gets 1million viewrs on sky is classed as a hit. LOST is the best example of this - a failing channel 4 show, took over by sky and now - even though it has lower fugures than what it did on channel 4 - it is a sky1 hit. Big brother has a larger following than LOST.

Maybe I'm over analysing this too much, but it's certainly a possibility.

Tom4784 26-08-2009 12:41 AM

The flaw in the Sky Theory is that Sky only poach successful shows. They'd kill for 2 million viewers a night yes BUT it wouldn't get that on a sky channel since it's a digital channel and not accessible to everyone, Hence why Celeb Hijack failed in the ratings.

I'd be very surprised if it gets picked up by another channel, people need to face facts really. The bubble's burst and BB has been dying since BB8 (although BB9 was a dose of adrenalin if we're to keep up the medical metaphors).

Tom4784 26-08-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by IheartBB
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Originally posted by keithafc
Yeah but Big Brother is hardly going to be a big pull in for them is it? They have Skysports, Sky movies etc. Big Brother for me would just FAIL on sky.
You'd be suprised. Anything that gets 1million viewrs on sky is classed as a hit. LOST is the best example of this - a failing channel 4 show, took over by sky and now - even though it has lower fugures than what it did on channel 4 - it is a sky1 hit. Big brother has a larger following than LOST.

Maybe I'm over analysing this too much, but it's certainly a possibility.

HAHAHA! I'm sorry but Lost wasn't a failing show, it was one of C4's crown diamonds and they fought Sky hard for it. What you got to remember is that imports are cheaper then producing a homegrown television series. So getting 2 million viewers for an import is just as good as getting 3 million on a homegrown program because it will have cost less to get those figures.

mikopale 26-08-2009 12:47 AM

I think people would be interested in Big Brother again if it wasn't on every year. They could just put it on every 3 years instead of 1 year. I would love to see Big Brother on every year, but i could deal with it if it was on every few years.

keithafc 26-08-2009 12:48 AM

Yep, simple as that for me. It's ran its course.

MrGaryy 26-08-2009 12:48 AM

...did someone just say BB has a bigger following than Lost.

hold me dean...

janine_luv_xx 26-08-2009 12:51 AM

i didnt think diary room uncut was axed

Annmarie 26-08-2009 12:51 AM

I think one of the main reasons it hasn't had the ratings is because they've axed the live feed during the day. It's made a huge difference to me. Even if I didn't sit and watch it all day, I always tuned in at some point to see what was happening.

IheartBB 26-08-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by keithafc
Yeah but Big Brother is hardly going to be a big pull in for them is it? They have Skysports, Sky movies etc. Big Brother for me would just FAIL on sky.
You'd be suprised. Anything that gets 1million viewrs on sky is classed as a hit. LOST is the best example of this - a failing channel 4 show, took over by sky and now - even though it has lower fugures than what it did on channel 4 - it is a sky1 hit. Big brother has a larger following than LOST.

Maybe I'm over analysing this too much, but it's certainly a possibility.

HAHAHA! I'm sorry but Lost wasn't a failing show, it was one of C4's crown diamonds and they fought Sky hard for it. What you got to remember is that imports are cheaper then producing a homegrown television series. So getting 2 million viewers for an import is just as good as getting 3 million on a homegrown program because it will have cost less to get those figures.
OK, you make a good point there. Maybe BB on sky isn't such a great business idea afterall :bawling:

SurferJay 26-08-2009 01:20 AM

i knew this months ago.

delta 26-08-2009 06:05 AM

BB - No More
 
BIG Brother is to be scrapped by Channel 4 after this year's ratings disaster, The Sun can reveal.

The axe comes as barely two million tune into the tenth series of the reality show - compared to eight million only a few years ago.

A telly insider last night confirmed an official announcement will be made as early as Friday, saying: "The reality is people are BORED with it. Even at Channel 4 the vibe among staff is that if you like Big Brother you're not cool.




"If the people commissioning the show don't think it's cool, what hope is there?"

The "bold experiment" that was launched in 2000 went on to make stars of housemates such as Jade Goody, Chantelle Houghton and the original Mr "Nasty" Nick Bateman.





Deal

But this year's dull crop - including mutton-chopped Wolverine lookalike Marcus - have proved the death knell.

One final series - the 11th - will be screened on C4 next year because of the channel's £180million deal with the show's makers Endemol.

But after that it will only go ahead if the production house can flog it to a rival channel.

At its peak Big Brother was a huge money-spinner - generating profits of £70million a year.

But insiders now say it is only just "washing its face" - industry speak for covering its costs.

They accuse the show of failing to win over the "Facebook generation" after being watered down to avoid controversy following the Shilpa Shetty race row on the celebrity version.

The source said: "The truth is nobody's talking about Big Brother any more."

Fans of Celebrity Big Brother are likely to still get their fix of it in January - since that is also part of C4's current deal.

Twilight 26-08-2009 06:14 AM

WTF marcus dull????

Linto99 26-08-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by TurtleSoup
It's quite funny they reference Marcus when he's one of the most watchable housemates.
It's all a matter of opinion but Marcus in my eyes is as dull as dishwater!

*mazedsalv** 26-08-2009 07:47 AM

There will be a BB11 anyway. Compare to ALL other C4 shows, BB comes 1st, and 2nd only to Location, Location. To still get the highest C4 ratings compared to everything else after 10 yrs is a good achievement,

What people dont see is the general C4 decline.
When Friends was on air, it was hitting 6-7m weekly, with the final peaking at a huge 10m, these were the years when the huge Friday night lineup would be advertised non stop and acchieve big numbers (explains the BB2-BB5 ratings) .The Simpsons 2 years ago was reaching 3.4m and now manages only 1.7m, and Hollyaoks which was reaching 3m 2 years ago is now hitting 1.3m. Everything is going down, why just rule out BB?

It is C4's fault for their own failure. Where has there Must see Friday night lineup gone ? The Friday nights changed since 2005, everything was getting cancelled(Fraiser, Friends, Trigger Happy TV ect...)

*mazedsalv** 26-08-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by mikopale
I think people would be interested in Big Brother again if it wasn't on every year. They could just put it on every 3 years instead of 1 year. I would love to see Big Brother on every year, but i could deal with it if it was on every few years.
Its clear that people are still ionterested by the show by these numbers:

CBB6 launch watched by 6.1m, after a terrible year and bad ratings dropping to 2m. BB10 launch was watched by 5.5m. That implies that people still are interested.

I think it would be amazing to take BB away from C4 and put it on ITV, and they will advertise it properly, think of new plans, bring the LF back and we can be sure it will be back to 4m levels again. It would be great satisfaction to see C4 staff's faces if BB will be a success on other channels :bigsmile:

ElProximo 26-08-2009 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by stickydatepudding
- No live feed.
- Evictions talk allowed.
- Housemates given outside information (the magazines).
- Housemates given day trips out in the real world.
- Allowing block voting to go unpunished.
- A house full of assholes.

What did they expect?
And this is it - by dissolving the core rules and abandoning the fundamental concepts for what might have been 'cheap thrills' it cost the program all integrity.

I catch up yesterday and see them handed magazines articles about themselves,
Two more just leave the house and go to London,
the rest are running around the studio which really blows the whole psychological 'fish bowl' concepts,
no nomination rules followed,
HM do whatever,
Who cares,
People coming and going giving them stats on the popularity so why do anything anymore?
What is this now?
Just film 20 people in a hotel with access for anyone to come and go for a Summer for all its worth.


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