| BBfan46 |
27-08-2009 11:44 AM |
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Originally posted by VickyJ
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Originally posted by BBfan46
Whats with the lies. I have no issue with you hating Charlie it's fine with me. I simply defended my favourite. Check the posts you mentioned Marcus in a way which indicated you believed he didn't't deserve hate threads. Marcus is rude and perverted. You then went on to declare that I said your opinion was WRONG?! Words which I never typed. Please stop spreading lies on this thread.
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I'm spreading no lies.
I mentioned Marcus as a comparison for hate thread. I think its a fair comparison as he has had BY FAR overall more hate threads than charlie.
OK, you are defending your favourite...by totally disregarding most of my post and only referring to a bit where I said he was bitchy...speaks volumes if you don't even have any defense for his actions.
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He is a hypocrite.
He went off on one with Marcus for saying stuff to Bea, and Freddie laughing. His reasoning was that he disliked anyone ganging up on people and them two were ganging up on Bea, he said he would do the same for anyone who was being ganged up on.
Yet he had no problem whatsoever when nearly the whole house ganged up on Freddie...he even had the audacity to sit next to Freddie whilst Lisa Karly and Kris were picking at him and say not a word, straight after he had been sitting telling Freddie that he had seen no ganging up. He then proceeds to attack Siavash, with Rodrigo and David...now...if his real reason for kicking off about them ganging up on Bea was indeed that he didn'tt like people being ganged up on...why take part in this kind of thing himself? Why not tell them this? That he was arguing so they should wait? No, he sat back and smiled smugly whilst the other two went on, no doubt planning what he could say to fill the gaps.
Also, he encouraged Marcus Freddie and Siavash to break out of jail...yet when they receive their punishment, which was the food being took away, he twists about it and says they shouldn't have done it. Bearing in mind he also told them after the breakout that they should not go to the diary room when asked.
Also, he kicked off with siavash about lying about his nominations...just a week earlier Bea did exactly the same thing...difference being, Bea had already nominated, then lied about it. Siavash said he was going to nominate, and then changed his mind. If it upsets charlie that people lie about nominations, why did he not have a go at Bea for exactly the same thing?
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He doesn't let people have a say.
2 examples.
Freddie: Freddie was explaining something to Marcus, charlie hears something he doesn't want to hear, and starts going off on one. Freddie a few times tried to explain what he meant, but Charlie keeps talking over himm to get his point across...Freddie again tries to explain what he meant, and suddenly Charlie wants nothing more to do with the conversation. A few minutes later, Charlie brings it up again, going on and on and on, Freddie eventually gets a word in, and charlie wants to speak about it tomorrow...which never happened. He always makes sure he gets his point across before 'forgetting the conversation'
Siavash: They all jump on him, maybe for good reason...I understand that Charlie may not of liked being lied to. He again did not let Siavash get a word in...steamrollering on and on with his views, pausing only to allow David or Rodrigo to have their say, every time Siavash tries to speak he is cut off. Siavash even points out that they are just shouting at him, but the same carries on...again it is decided that they leave it as they are sick of the conversation...only for it to be brought up again in the garden, and the same thing to happen.
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He **** stirs
Shorter example.
The Noirin 'protest' thing. He knew Noirin knew nothing of this, yet he had to tell her then make out that he thought she already knew. You may take this and turn it round to be him being loyal to a friend, but if this was the case, why not just tell her straight, instead of trying to make out that he said it by accident? Hmm...either for the cameras, so he is not SEEN as stirring, or to have a defense when the housemates find out that he is trying to cause trouble. I don't see any other possible reason.
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He is aggressive
This was shown during the whole swapping mattress thing with Rodrigo. He said he would swap beds, so Rodrigo went to change the mattresses as he said he did not want to swap beds, it is the same thing really. Charlie appears to be going to hit Rodrigo...did you see the look of sheer hatred that crossed his face? And don't say he was not aggressive, he was...everyone except charlie fans can see this. If they had been outside, I have no doubt in my mind he would of hit Rodrigo.
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He makes himself out to be the victim
The night him Sophie and Bea woke the whole house up with their antics. Rodrigo told charlie..not in a nice way though, I'll give you that...to get out of the bedroom if they were going to make noise...a pretty fair request given that he had just been woken up by having Sophie dumped on him. Yes, they were trying to get Sophie to bed. I understand this, however, as soon as charlie realised Rodrigo was annoyed, he starts shouting 'shout, come on now shout' in his face...he the proceeds to go to bed and start screaming at the top of his lungs. Rodrigo gets upset, kicks off...and charlie turns it round like he did nothing wrong...'if you asked me to be quiet I would of been'and puts on a baby voice 'don't threaten is'. he obviously wasn't that bothered about being threatened or he would of said something before hand about it, not as an afterthought. Rodrigo told him many times to shut up, charlie knows this. Then when Rodrigo is called to the diary room(rightly so by the way, he was getting aggressive) charlie tries to make out to the rest of the housemates that he did nothing wrong.
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He DOES use his mother for sympathy
After the message from home, the whole 'she is getting better because I am on BB' was disgusting. Basically, not him actually saying these word, but implying that if he won his mother would make a miraculous recovery.
I understand his mother is ill and its sad, and obviously he will get upset about it...I dislike the people who say he shouldn't speak about it at all. But the way he brought BB into his mother getting better was wrong, very wrong. Of course it has nothing to do with the fact he is on a reality TV show, if this was the case, everyone with sick relatives would go on them to make them better.
Also the way he made out he was on BB 'for me mam'. His father made clear that it had been charlies dream for years to go on BB, he is there for him, no one else.
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He is totally fake
The whole Nana thing is just for the cameras, I think this is pretty obvious...and I love how it has never made the HL show, it is creepy and disturbing, and again, I am yet to see anyone who is not a charlie fan say that they find it in any way funny. In fact, my sister, who is 18, loved charlie, until she saw Nana. Now she doesn't. She says its weird.
Many times I have noticed him sitting scowling then looking up and seeing a camera and starting to smile and put the nicey nice act on. The other night with Siavash, if he was really as worked up and angry about it as he made out, why suddenly start flouncing around and go to dance with Lisa? If you were that mad, then hearing music would not snap you out of it. His face went from scowl to Beaming smile once he realised that he had a chance to switch back to Mr nice guy.
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Now, I could go on all day, but I am typing in the dark, and I don't really see why I should have to explain my reasons for disliking charlie...take your pick from the above, or just disregard the entire post...but I'm done here. Just thought I would let you know that not everyone dislikes him for no good reason, and maybe let you into the reasoning of some people who dislike him...
Also, I have used one or two examples of every point, there are more, but if I said it all, this would be even more of an essay :wink:
Its probably too long for people to bother with but its kept me busy for 20 minutes so never mind :hugesmile:
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There valid points -- but none are proven -- Charlie may be acting up to the camera but doesn't everyone? You also base a lot of your argument on him being a master game player. He's clearly not immensely intelligent and I doubt he has a game plan. |
