[rquote=2552268&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es. [/rquote]

No they didn't.[/rquote]
Of course. I forgot you had 24/7 access to all there every actions. How silly of me, mighty one.

[rquote=2552262&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552255&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Likewise, you hypocrit. Apart from the cheating, the refusal to nominate, and bunnygate, which we all know of, the only examples you have given have been his hygiene and what he wears.

Bunnygate was a dumb thing to do. A very dumb thing. But we all got over it. Stealing somebodies cans and trying to pass the blame is just as bad. Sitting at the bus stop with your clique mocking halfwit and then refusing to talk to him is just as bad.

The cheating he was clearly, CLEARLY genuinly sorry for. If you cant see that you need a scan of some sort.

The refusal to nominate is, at best, trivial. Other housemates ended up copying him when it suited them anyway. By refusing to nominate, Siavash was actualy risking far more than he was gaining. He could have been kicked out at any time and he knows it.

Seems to me you take great offence at people liking Siavash. It's called opinion. Some of us are not ready to be judgemental morons towards people we dont know. Welcome to planet earth.

I am going to continue to assume that at heart all the housemates are good people, and am thankfull for the entertainment they have given us.

[/rquote]

I enjoy how you reduce everything that is given in argument for the sake of comfort.

In argument, you are supposed to address all points as they are addressed - not give the impression that something isn't as bad as it was said.

But anyway - that's what bias is, isn't it.

If you feel this bad about it, call OfCom and tell them people don't like Siavash because Channel 4 showed how despicable a living organism he is.

I mean, I'll do you a favour, because I'm like that.

You mention Siavash did all this - why didn't the housemate do ALL (all being operative) ALL these things Siavash did for 13 weeks and behaved like this.

Now... then you will realise the difference between liking and disliking a housemate based upon a comparative analysis.

Try it. It's called objectivity.[/rquote]

You are the least objective person on this thread!

[rquote=2552268&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es. [/rquote]

No they didn't.[/rquote]

No some of them were complete arseholes

[rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es.[/rquote]

Let's see, for instance.

Apart from Siavash...

Who made friends with somebody in the house, then went to the girl he liked and told her not to spend time with him and then started kissing and cuddling him.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.

Need I go on?

Lets start with these and if you can give me one housemate who did all of the above... cool.

Remember all of the above because it's the fact he does all of the above that makes him the worst in history.

[rquote=2552280&tid=147049&author=meecha][rquote=2552262&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552255&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Likewise, you hypocrit. Apart from the cheating, the refusal to nominate, and bunnygate, which we all know of, the only examples you have given have been his hygiene and what he wears.

Bunnygate was a dumb thing to do. A very dumb thing. But we all got over it. Stealing somebodies cans and trying to pass the blame is just as bad. Sitting at the bus stop with your clique mocking halfwit and then refusing to talk to him is just as bad.

The cheating he was clearly, CLEARLY genuinly sorry for. If you cant see that you need a scan of some sort.

The refusal to nominate is, at best, trivial. Other housemates ended up copying him when it suited them anyway. By refusing to nominate, Siavash was actualy risking far more than he was gaining. He could have been kicked out at any time and he knows it.

Seems to me you take great offence at people liking Siavash. It's called opinion. Some of us are not ready to be judgemental morons towards people we dont know. Welcome to planet earth.

I am going to continue to assume that at heart all the housemates are good people, and am thankfull for the entertainment they have given us.

[/rquote]

I enjoy how you reduce everything that is given in argument for the sake of comfort.

In argument, you are supposed to address all points as they are addressed - not give the impression that something isn't as bad as it was said.

But anyway - that's what bias is, isn't it.

If you feel this bad about it, call OfCom and tell them people don't like Siavash because Channel 4 showed how despicable a living organism he is.

I mean, I'll do you a favour, because I'm like that.

You mention Siavash did all this - why didn't the housemate do ALL (all being operative) ALL these things Siavash did for 13 weeks and behaved like this.

Now... then you will realise the difference between liking and disliking a housemate based upon a comparative analysis.

Try it. It's called objectivity.[/rquote]

You are the least objective person on this thread!

[/rquote]

{Sarcasm - ON}

I am sure that is the case. I will remember that the next time I read "I know Siavash stole airtime from David's Birthday Party and ruined the day for him but I do believe he is still a genuine nice kind person, better than Lisa who just sits on that Bus Stop sending evil waves to make people nominate Freddie GRRR".

{Sarcasm - OFF}

[rquote=2552274&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]
Now as I am a good person, I am going to assume as I have had no contact with him that he is also a good person. Try it. It's called reality. It's called having a ****ing heart.[/rquote]

LOL Yeah, I can see that at how you're responding to me with a potty mouth. :joker::joker:

[rquote=2552291&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es.[/rquote]

Let's see, for instance.

Apart from Siavash...

Who made friends with somebody in the house, then went to the girl he liked and told her not to spend time with him and then started kissing and cuddling him.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.

Need I go on?

Lets start with these and if you can give me one housemate who did all of the above... cool.

Remember all of the above because it's the fact he does all of the above that makes him the worst in history.

[/rquote]
You know, if I had all the time in the world, I could easily duplicate facts, exaggerate truths, mention the same points four times using different words, and construct lists twice that big for Lisa. Or Kenneth. Or Kris. There are so many things on that list others are guilty of I dont even know where to start. But the very constructing of the list outs what a rotten person you are. How you are judgemental. How you ignore certain things and belittle people. How you are only prepared to see the bad. An example : Sophie decides to give Siavash 10,000 for wearing the clothes he had to wear so he could donate it to charity. Of COURSE it must be an eviiiiiil scheme. he brainwashed sophie and he is going to take over the charity, right?

Angel - Commented on other housemates weight. Went on an attention seeking hunger strike. Plays up the 'nutter'.

Bea - Pretended to cry. Lots. Treated Halfwit very harsh once he found other friends and once he showed his physical love for her.

Cairon - Got too agressive with Sree. Refuses to open his mouth or show any sort of enthusiasm in real life.

Charlie - Clearly acted for the cameras on numerous occasions. Picked fights with halfwit before telling him to 'shut up'.

David - See above, and substitute Halfwit for Bea.

Halfwit - By constantly talking about how Lisa constantly talked about the game, in effect he became a self fulfilling prophecy.

Kenneth - Enough said.

Karly - Took the piss out of freddie with lisa nin the early days and goaded him into arguments before walking away.

Kris - see above.

You know what, why are my even bothering with this? You get where I am going. All of them did dome ****. All of them played to the cameras on occasion. All of them told lies. All of them had one or two arguments.Most of them broke the rules at some point or another. But Siavash is the devil incarnate, of course.

[rquote=2552274&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]
Phrases like 'I enjoy' and 'Im like that' really root out what a rotten b****** you are. The funny thing is, you genuinly seem to think you are of a higher brain capacity than Siavash fans. You also dodged many of my arguments. Like how your passing harsh judgements on someone you have never met, which makes you as bad as Siavash apparently is.

I listed the main lies/arguments, and gave my defence, and gave examples of where other housemates acted just as badly.

And what do you do? You ignore everything. Everything. And then twist it by claiming IM the one ignoring things.

Get a grip. Nobody knows Siavash. He entertained me [true] he ****ed up [true] and they all ****ed up from time to time [true].

Now as I am a good person, I am going to assume as I have had no contact with him that he is also a good person. Try it. It's called reality. It's called having a ****ing heart.[/rquote]

He didn't entertain me
He did **** up a lot
The rest didn't ******* up as excessively and uniquely as he did

What's the matter? Is it difficult to cope with people destroying you on DS or did they give you a ban for attacking forum members there and now you're releasing the frustration on me.

Now, listen carefully, ok? You ignore everything that is said. You seem to think that Sophie running around giggling with housemates about drink and then later TELLING people she did it, (remember she mentioned she did) is as bad as the daily lying that Siavash did and the betrayal and deception and lack of loyalty he shows as well.

Remember it was Siavash who got Cairon evicted for encouraging him to have a go at Sree and then walking off when the fireworks went off... then Marcus, then Freddie, then Bea, then Noirin. Which other housemate did that?

Let's attach that to everything else.

Now you have the nerve to say to me that he's ok and we should forget this? Is this Question Time or something? It's not - it's Big Brother, they're there baring all to see and the rest are seemingly imperfect but not utter assh***es like Siavash was to them and to everybody else BUT

You ignore that

Let me repeat this

You ignore that

You ignore that behaviour

So shame on you for using this as a stage for your flaws in support. You dug that grave, you sleep in it.

[rquote=2552310&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2552291&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es.[/rquote]

Let's see, for instance.

Apart from Siavash...

Who made friends with somebody in the house, then went to the girl he liked and told her not to spend time with him and then started kissing and cuddling him.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.

Need I go on?

Lets start with these and if you can give me one housemate who did all of the above... cool.

Remember all of the above because it's the fact he does all of the above that makes him the worst in history.

[/rquote]
You know, if I had all the time in the world, I could easily duplicate facts, exaggerate truths, mention the same points four times using different words, and construct lists twice that big for Lisa. Or Kenneth. Or Kris. There are so many things on that list others are guilty of I dont even know where to start. But the very constructing of the list outs what a rotten person you are. How you are judgemental. How you ignore certain things and belittle people. How you are only prepared to see the bad. An example : Sophie decides to give Siavash 10,000 for wearing the clothes he had to wear so he could donate it to charity. Of COURSE it must be an eviiiiiil scheme. he brainwashed sophie and he is going to take over the charity, right?

Angel - Commented on other housemates weight. Went on an attention seeking hunger strike. Plays up the 'nutter'.

Bea - Pretended to cry. Lots. Treated Halfwit very harsh once he found other friends and once he showed his physical love for her.

Cairon - Got too agressive with Sree. Refuses to open his mouth or show any sort of enthusiasm in real life.

Charlie - Clearly acted for the cameras on numerous occasions. Picked fights with halfwit before telling him to 'shut up'.

David - See above, and substitute Halfwit for Bea.

Halfwit - By constantly talking about how Lisa constantly talked about the game, in effect he became a self fulfilling prophecy.

Kenneth - Enough said.

Karly - Took the p**s out of freddie with lisa nin the early days and goaded him into arguments before walking away.

Kris - see above.

You know what, why are my even bothering with this? You get where I am going. All of them did dome ****. All of them played to the cameras on occasion. All of them told lies. All of them had one or two arguments.Most of them broke the rules at some point or another. But Siavash is the devil incarnate, of course. [/rquote]

*sigh* Sophie didn't decide to give it to Siavash. When Siavash realised he wouldn't get 10k for wearing the dressed he persuaded, almost goaded her to part with charity so he "wouldn't look a fool" (only in his eyes) but he still is one...

anyway...

ALL (seriously, is it hard to understand?)

Remember ALL - that's what makes him the worst

ALL... Yes?

OK... try again.

We're talking about deception, betrayal and continuous lying for 13 weeks.

Again... ALL of those things. One housemate in the history of Big Brother.

Go for it.

[rquote=2552324&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552310&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2552291&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es.[/rquote]

Let's see, for instance.

Apart from Siavash...

Who made friends with somebody in the house, then went to the girl he liked and told her not to spend time with him and then started kissing and cuddling him.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.

Need I go on?

Lets start with these and if you can give me one housemate who did all of the above... cool.

Remember all of the above because it's the fact he does all of the above that makes him the worst in history.

[/rquote]
You know, if I had all the time in the world, I could easily duplicate facts, exaggerate truths, mention the same points four times using different words, and construct lists twice that big for Lisa. Or Kenneth. Or Kris. There are so many things on that list others are guilty of I dont even know where to start. But the very constructing of the list outs what a rotten person you are. How you are judgemental. How you ignore certain things and belittle people. How you are only prepared to see the bad. An example : Sophie decides to give Siavash 10,000 for wearing the clothes he had to wear so he could donate it to charity. Of COURSE it must be an eviiiiiil scheme. he brainwashed sophie and he is going to take over the charity, right?

Angel - Commented on other housemates weight. Went on an attention seeking hunger strike. Plays up the 'nutter'.

Bea - Pretended to cry. Lots. Treated Halfwit very harsh once he found other friends and once he showed his physical love for her.

Cairon - Got too agressive with Sree. Refuses to open his mouth or show any sort of enthusiasm in real life.

Charlie - Clearly acted for the cameras on numerous occasions. Picked fights with halfwit before telling him to 'shut up'.

David - See above, and substitute Halfwit for Bea.

Halfwit - By constantly talking about how Lisa constantly talked about the game, in effect he became a self fulfilling prophecy.

Kenneth - Enough said.

Karly - Took the p**s out of freddie with lisa nin the early days and goaded him into arguments before walking away.

Kris - see above.

You know what, why are my even bothering with this? You get where I am going. All of them did dome ****. All of them played to the cameras on occasion. All of them told lies. All of them had one or two arguments.Most of them broke the rules at some point or another. But Siavash is the devil incarnate, of course. [/rquote]

ALL

Remember ALL - that's what makes him the worst

ALL... Yes?

OK... try again.

We're talking about deception, betrayal and continuous lying for 13 weeks.

Again... ALL of those things. One housemate in the history of Big Brother.

Go for it.[/rquote]

As you are apparently so perfect and without fault - what hm did you support out of curiosity?

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.

Good question, which housemate DID you support? Also, I have never been a member of DS. You tool. Yes, I am name calling. I dont post on DS. Act like a tool, get called a tool. You seem to be treating this like a world war of some sort.

Poor thing.

[rquote=2552330&tid=147049&author=meecha]
As you are apparently so perfect and without fault - what hm did you support out of curiousity?

[/rquote]

Hmm...
Liked Sophie most of the time. Went off her when she believed Siavash's nonsense about Lisa in the final week but overall, liked her.

Like Rodrigo for the most part. Shouting got on my nerves.

Disliked Lisa at first but after Rabbitgate and Beergate, liked her and realised after re-watching the highlights how much Siavash was the biggest wind up merchant towards Freddie and getting him to wind people and Lisa up too.

It was Rabbitgate where I realised with Siavash's lies how much of a ******* he had been to the house. I watched back and looked at how he behaved to poeple. I actually liked Siavash up until Rabbitgate. I liked Siavash during and a little after Rabbitgate but then, when it was a lie I looked back and watching back realised how much of a devious, betraying lying two faced sh** stirring d*** he was. He treated those closest to him with such disdain it was digusting.

David, I liked too. Not at first but after a few days.

Charlie, 65/35.

Freddie I like after the house and in the early days. Felt he was coerced into a bad crowd.

Karly, sort of but her money hunger is pathetic.

Tom was brilliant. Liked him and liked him more for how he left.

Sree I liked. Good entertainment. Creepy around Noirin but she was cool with Sree until Siavash persuaded her not to be and encouraged Marcus and Cairon to attack Sree since Noirin was so close to him.

Noirin - dull and vacuous. Entertaining none the less.

Kris - no.

Bea - Entertaining for numerous reasons. Still devious and sly but she told Freddie the truth which led to her demise, again via Siavash who played his old divisive game across the house against her.

Hira - quality.

Beinazir, Sophie - quality

Saffia - far too mouthy but ok.

Cairon - spoilt brat.

I am sure there are others.

Also, for this dude constantly asking me ''who has done all of these things'', nobody but Siavash of course. Because Siavash is Siavash. I can easily spin that and say ''look at all these things Lisa has done, who else in the history of Big Brother has done all these things?''.

Same with Bea. Kenneth. Sophia. And so on. Oh dear.

[rquote=2552331&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.
[/rquote]

LOL - Seriously? Do you think changing a behaviour will work? You're desperate to prove otherwise but I admire how big a hole you dig for yourself.

If it's a behaviour it's a behaviour. Repeat that to yourself so you will understand.

TWo things

One - you change what is said and give a different answer. If we're talking about a behaviour - respond with a behaviour

Two - ALL, all those behaviour. Who did all those behaviours.

Not behaviours you made up, all of those behaviours. Every single one of them. Like Siavash did.

Go for it.

[rquote=2552342&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552330&tid=147049&author=meecha]
As you are apparently so perfect and without fault - what hm did you support out of curiousity?

[/rquote]

Hmm...
Liked Sophie most of the time. Went off her when she believed Siavash's nonsense about Lisa in the final week but overall, liked her.

Like Rodrigo for the most part. Shouting got on my nerves.

Disliked Lisa at first but after Rabbitgate and Beergate, liked her and realised after re-watching the highlights how much Siavash was the biggest wind up merchant towards Freddie and getting him to wind people and Lisa up too.

It was Rabbitgate where I realised with Siavash's lies how much of a ******* he had been to the house. I watched back and looked at how he behaved to poeple. I actually liked Siavash up until Rabbitgate. I liked Siavash during and a little after Rabbitgate but then, when it was a lie I looked back and watching back realised how much of a devious, betraying lying two faced sh** stirring d*** he was. He treated those closest to him with such disdain it was digusting.

David, I liked too. Not at first but after a few days.

Charlie, 65/35.

Freddie I like after the house and in the early days. Felt he was coerced into a bad crowd.

Karly, sort of but her money hunger is pathetic.

Tom was brilliant. Liked him and liked him more for how he left.

Sree I liked. Good entertainment. Creepy around Noirin but she was cool with Sree until Siavash persuaded her not to be and encouraged Marcus and Cairon to attack Sree since Noirin was so close to him.

Noirin - dull and vacuous. Entertaining none the less.

Kris - no.

Bea - Entertaining for numerous reasons. Still devious and sly but she told Freddie the truth which led to her demise, again via Siavash who played his old divisive game across the house against her.

Hira - quality.

Beinazir, Sophie - quality

Saffia - far too mouthy but ok.

Cairon - spoilt brat.

I am sure there are others.

[/rquote]
RUMBLED. HAHAHAHA.

This is unbelievable. Sree who spoke to women like objects when he never got his way? Tom who bored everyone, made no impact, bitched behind peoples backs for his brief tenure, and fled when he realised he was having no impact? I could go on with this all day. You have given yourself up as a complete tyrant of opinion. You make Siavash fans feel like bad people and you belittle them for supporting them yet virtually ALL the housemates you like are subject to NUMEROUS flaws.

What a gimp.

[rquote=2552344&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Also, for this dude constantly asking me ''who has done all of these things'', nobody but Siavash of course. Because Siavash is Siavash. I can easily spin that and say ''look at all these things Lisa has done, who else in the history of Big Brother has done all these things?''.

Same with Bea. Kenneth. Sophia. And so on. Oh dear.[/rquote]

No it's not a spin.

It's because Siavash has done those behaviours because only Siavash can because of the type of person he is and that's why people dislike him.

I am sure you would "spin" this, you would "spin" it with delight because you've already attempted to do it already with your reductionism.

Come on. Try it. I am happy in watching you dig a hole.

[rquote=2552349&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2552342&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552330&tid=147049&author=meecha]
As you are apparently so perfect and without fault - what hm did you support out of curiousity?

[/rquote]

Hmm...
Liked Sophie most of the time. Went off her when she believed Siavash's nonsense about Lisa in the final week but overall, liked her.

Like Rodrigo for the most part. Shouting got on my nerves.

Disliked Lisa at first but after Rabbitgate and Beergate, liked her and realised after re-watching the highlights how much Siavash was the biggest wind up merchant towards Freddie and getting him to wind people and Lisa up too.

It was Rabbitgate where I realised with Siavash's lies how much of a ******* he had been to the house. I watched back and looked at how he behaved to poeple. I actually liked Siavash up until Rabbitgate. I liked Siavash during and a little after Rabbitgate but then, when it was a lie I looked back and watching back realised how much of a devious, betraying lying two faced sh** stirring d*** he was. He treated those closest to him with such disdain it was digusting.

David, I liked too. Not at first but after a few days.

Charlie, 65/35.

Freddie I like after the house and in the early days. Felt he was coerced into a bad crowd.

Karly, sort of but her money hunger is pathetic.

Tom was brilliant. Liked him and liked him more for how he left.

Sree I liked. Good entertainment. Creepy around Noirin but she was cool with Sree until Siavash persuaded her not to be and encouraged Marcus and Cairon to attack Sree since Noirin was so close to him.

Noirin - dull and vacuous. Entertaining none the less.

Kris - no.

Bea - Entertaining for numerous reasons. Still devious and sly but she told Freddie the truth which led to her demise, again via Siavash who played his old divisive game across the house against her.

Hira - quality.

Beinazir, Sophie - quality

Saffia - far too mouthy but ok.

Cairon - spoilt brat.

I am sure there are others.

[/rquote]
RUMBLED. HAHAHAHA.

This is unbelievable. Sree who spoke to women like objects when he never got his way? Tom who bored everyone, made no impact, bitched behind peoples backs for his brief tenure, and fled when he realised he was having no impact? I could go on with this all day. You have given yourself up as a complete tyrant of opinion. You make Siavash fans feel like bad people and you belittle them for supporting them yet virtually ALL the housemates you like are subject to NUMEROUS flaws.

What a gimp.[/rquote]


Err..? LOL :joker::joker:


Remember ALL of those things.

[rquote=2552347&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552331&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.
[/rquote]

LOL - Seriously? Do you think changing a behaviour will work? You're desperate to prove otherwise but I admire how big a hole you dig for yourself.

If it's a behaviour it's a behaviour. Repeat that to yourself so you will understand.

TWo things

One - you change what is said and give a different answer. If we're talking about a behaviour - respond with a behaviour

Two - ALL, all those behaviour. Who did all those behaviours.

Not behaviours you made up, all of those behaviours. Every single one of them. Like Siavash did.

Go for it.[/rquote]
Once again, SIAVASH IS THE ONLY ONE WITH SIAVASH'S BEHAVIOURS. THATS HOW PEOPLE WORK. WE ARE NOT ROBOTS.

I can make huge lists of flaws for ALL the housemates but of course they are not going to contain the same **** ups as the ones Siavash made because THATS HOW PEOPLE WORK, THEY TEND TO BE DIFFERENT.

Seriously, where did they ****ing find you?

[rquote=2552354&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2552347&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552331&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.
[/rquote]

LOL - Seriously? Do you think changing a behaviour will work? You're desperate to prove otherwise but I admire how big a hole you dig for yourself.

If it's a behaviour it's a behaviour. Repeat that to yourself so you will understand.

TWo things

One - you change what is said and give a different answer. If we're talking about a behaviour - respond with a behaviour

Two - ALL, all those behaviour. Who did all those behaviours.

Not behaviours you made up, all of those behaviours. Every single one of them. Like Siavash did.

Go for it.[/rquote]
Once again, SIAVASH IS THE ONLY ONE WITH SIAVASH'S BEHAVIOURS. THATS HOW PEOPLE WORK. WE ARE NOT ROBOTS.

I can make huge lists of flaws for ALL the housemates but of course they are not going to contain the same **** ups as the ones Siavash made because THATS HOW PEOPLE WORK, THEY TEND TO BE DIFFERENT.

Seriously, where did they ****ing find you?[/rquote]

You're funny.

What part of "and that's why people don't like Siavash because of them" don't you understand?

Is it difficult to comprehend?

[rquote=2552352&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552344&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Also, for this dude constantly asking me ''who has done all of these things'', nobody but Siavash of course. Because Siavash is Siavash. I can easily spin that and say ''look at all these things Lisa has done, who else in the history of Big Brother has done all these things?''.

Same with Bea. Kenneth. Sophia. And so on. Oh dear.[/rquote]

No it's not a spin.

It's because Siavash has done those behaviours because only Siavash can because of the type of person he is and that's why people dislike him.

I am sure you would "spin" this, you would "spin" it with delight because you've already attempted to do it already with your reductionism.

Come on. Try it. I am happy in watching you dig a hole.[/rquote]
Dont worry, I can tell you take delight in the misery and misfortune of others, you pathetic moron.

Once again, I CANT repeat I CANT make a list with Siavash's behavoir, conducted by another housemate, because thats SIAVASH.

I can make a huge list for Lisa if you like. Or Sree. Then goad you like a moron to try and make a Siavash list with those same flaws. Which of course would be impossible. Because Lisa is Lisa, Sree is Sree, and Siavash is Siavash.

What cabbage patch did they grow you from?

[rquote=2552347&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552331&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.
[/rquote]

LOL - Seriously? Do you think changing a behaviour will work? You're desperate to prove otherwise but I admire how big a hole you dig for yourself.

If it's a behaviour it's a behaviour. Repeat that to yourself so you will understand.

TWo things

One - you change what is said and give a different answer. If we're talking about a behaviour - respond with a behaviour

Two - ALL, all those behaviour. Who did all those behaviours.

Not behaviours you made up, all of those behaviours. Every single one of them. Like Siavash did.

Go for it.[/rquote]

In my opinion - you see what you want to see (whatever the reasons).

[rquote=2552360&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2552352&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552344&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Also, for this dude constantly asking me ''who has done all of these things'', nobody but Siavash of course. Because Siavash is Siavash. I can easily spin that and say ''look at all these things Lisa has done, who else in the history of Big Brother has done all these things?''.

Same with Bea. Kenneth. Sophia. And so on. Oh dear.[/rquote]

No it's not a spin.

It's because Siavash has done those behaviours because only Siavash can because of the type of person he is and that's why people dislike him.

I am sure you would "spin" this, you would "spin" it with delight because you've already attempted to do it already with your reductionism.

Come on. Try it. I am happy in watching you dig a hole.[/rquote]
Dont worry, I can tell you take delight in the misery and misfortune of others, you pathetic moron.

Once again, I CANT repeat I CANT make a list with Siavash's behavoir, conducted by another housemate, because thats SIAVASH.

I can make a huge list for Lisa if you like. Or Sree. Then goad you like a moron to try and make a Siavash list with those same flaws. Which of course would be impossible. Because Lisa is Lisa, Sree is Sree, and Siavash is Siavash.

What cabbage patch did they grow you from?[/rquote]

*sigh*

And THIS

THIS is why peopel dislike him for those behaviours that only he can do because he's Siavash?

Seriously? Were you dropped or do entertain yourself by banging your head against a wall

THIS is why people dislike him for these behaviours.

Yes? Understand?

Is it hard to grasp?

Bloody Hell!!!!

Do you see the Check mate here? Because you're stuck in a hole now.

[rquote=2552364&tid=147049&author=meecha][rquote=2552347&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552331&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again and then apologised afterwards.
Marcus, with no aplogies.

Who did numerous rule breaks over and over again, after he apologised that he was going to do it.
Marcus, with no apologies.

He backstabbed everybody in the house and caused numerous divisions.
Lisa. Everyone but David. Of course, Siavash backstabbed people like Roddy and Sophie according to that riddiculous argument, tool.

Who got his "friends" (as you put it) to fight his battles against Karly, Kris, Lisa, Sree, Noirin.
Lisa had a small brigade to fight her battles. Fact.

Who persuaded a girl with guilt trips to part with 10 thousand pounds.
Of course. It's all an evil brainwash plot.

Who lied to the girl he fancied so that she wouldn't leave the group he was in.
Who then betrayed his trust and ran off to the other group with this info?

Who lied about other housemates in the house and continued that lie and didn't apologise.
The whole lot of them. What sort of a generalisation is that?

Who played his own friends against each other. Those closest to him.
Yeah, all those arguments between Marcus, Sophie and Halfwit. Damn.

Who pretended about a girlfriend to different housemates i.e. told different housemates a different story about the girlfriend by saying to some he knew a girl he liked to telling others he was dating her for 1 month, 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and even a year, depending on who he spoke to.
Who said she had SEX in the house? Who beat up a billion ninjas?

Who set up a scam with a girl on the outside and told her to pretend she was a friend and a cousin.
Which two housemates, for 250,000, nominated all the time? Which housemates hated Siavash for playing certain games beause they were terrified of the public vote themslves? Do I need to go on>?

Who left a birthday party and ruined it effectively away from the cake cutting for his own selfish needs.
WHo drew attention to themselves during the shopping lists? During tasks? During other parties? All of them are guilty of this at some point or another.

Who changed stories about why he wanted to leave after he discovered the winner - no mention of a fake girlfriend.
I have lost count of how many housemates have thrown hissy fits and started bids to leave.

Who persuaded others into trouble and let his own friends get the brunt of the blame because in secret he apologised to people.
Siavash took the most heat for rule breaks with the nominations. This has been documented.

Who encouraged vicious rumours against people and played these rumours against the people he knew best.
Vicious. HAHAHA. Lisa.

Who would steal airtime at every eviction by pretending he was in constipation.
Siavash. And David. And Charlie. And a couple of others every now and thenm.

Who would mock housemates behind their back because he couldn't do it to their face.
Everyone. Fact. It's all been on telly. They have all talked about each other at one point or another.
[/rquote]

LOL - Seriously? Do you think changing a behaviour will work? You're desperate to prove otherwise but I admire how big a hole you dig for yourself.

If it's a behaviour it's a behaviour. Repeat that to yourself so you will understand.

TWo things

One - you change what is said and give a different answer. If we're talking about a behaviour - respond with a behaviour

Two - ALL, all those behaviour. Who did all those behaviours.

Not behaviours you made up, all of those behaviours. Every single one of them. Like Siavash did.

Go for it.[/rquote]

In my opinion - you see what you want to see (whatever the reasons).

[/rquote]

Me and the other 75% of voters who wanted him out. Thank Goodness for that.

Reasons are because I don't betray cheat and lie about the people closest to me.