I couldn`t care less about people who think MJ is a peadophile,I decided a long time ago that there was no point in trying to convert peoples opinions as alot of the people who believe he was guilty are simply ignorant.The majorty of people whom,when I mention MJ come out with smart arse comments such as 'Wacko Jacko' , 'Pedo' etc simply have never given the time of day to try and understand the man!That is what pisses me off,they probably opened a newspaper or switched on the news back in 93 and bam that was it for them,MJ was a peadophile!And why?Because thats what the media painted him out to be,if the papers say it then it must be true! just wish people wouldn`t be so quick to brand him with that title.Would you jump to such conclusions about a family member or a friend without any evidence of your own JUST because a newspaper is painting it out to be the truth.But oh not its ok cos MJ is a celebrity!Watch his interviews,read 'The Magic and the Madness' and educate yourself on his life before you feel the need to brand someone as being something so disgusting.

BTW ProbeEight that wasn`t directed at you inparticular

Again, about a movie (documentary, if you will). Of his last moments, for us to see.
Dont like it? Very easy, just ignore it.

Relax :tongue:

We'll never find out whether he was/wasn't but there are a lot of people who have already made their minds up and can't get over it, quite sad really

I am able to separate the man from the music. Nobody really knew who he really was, I just enjoy the music.

Oh I am. And once again, 90%. Making your original post that claimed I was tar brushing irrelevant. Presumably, this is why you have also suddenly changed track.

Cool. One thing, however : Your saying the media portrayed him a certain way, you know this is the same media that wants us to kiss his ass now? It's pathetic. They did the same thing with Jade, first she was built up, then destroyed and depicted as a racist, then we were forced to worship her once she died.

I must say though, think what you want, even the media do not suddenly decide to brand someone a paedo just for ***** and giggles.

Also, there is no such thing I believe as 'getting to know the real MJ'. He was obviously a very elusive character, and I am guessing you could count the people who know him well on one hand.

Agreed.

Is what Ia saying though. IF you thought he was a child molester, and is now dead, just leave it be! WHy do you want to preach to us who Do not think he is some slimy child molester? Live and let live.


I can do that pretty much with anyone. I never, stop liking someone's art, because I heard something they did in their personal lives.
But its hard for a lot of people to do that.

That, I can completely, agree with. :)

Yeah I understand,the media are bullshitters,its obviously all about making more money for them and thats why they tore both MJ and Jade down and then when they died built them up to be saints.Its a joke but its obviously a strategy that works for them.
I don`t deny for a second that MJ diddn`t give the media and the public reason to believe he was a peadophile,he absolutly did,sharing a bed with a child,spending so much time with children etc.Its not 'normal' behaviour in our society but just because someone thinks differently to the majority does that make them a peadophile?Just because someone sleeps in the same bed as a child does that mean it was for a sexual purpose?.However its the people that are ignorant and are not willing to listen to the facts before making their minds up that annoy me.
I never claimed to know the real MJ,fans like to think they know him but its not true,very few people did.Infact I don`t think anyone understood him totally,not even his own family.However I do know the facts more than the average person who claims he is a peadophile and I just don`t think its right to be so conclusive if you don`t know enough about the case or the accused.

I just watched "This is it". It was very enjoyable, the performances and backgrounds were very modern. The dancers were brilliant, the music was magnificent. In my opinion Michael Jackson looked as though he was in the peak of health.
Not the best film/documentary I have seen though, because you don't really learn a lot about Michael Jackson, it is mostly about the music and dance.

I know thats what I thought but then you have to think,that footage was never intended to be used to create anything more than a video MJ could show his kids and keep for his own personal use.

Watched it tonight and I thought it was excellent. I expected it to be rubbish because that's all I heard it was. But I loved it.

I liked that documentary when MJ showed his neverland and then he climbed up a tree and said he writes songs up it! I would like to see this film, will probs wait till its out on dvd!