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Beastie 05-12-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2736373)
Yeah, nothing wrong with it. Live and let live, which some people just can't do, therefore rely on Stereotypes

I am not relying on stereotypes, it all comes down to what the person actually does.

lily. 05-12-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2736377)
Are you actually that oblivious?

Oh and for the record I never said there was anything wrong with it, just based on what other people think about it.

No, I'm not oblivious. I was brought up in a council estate and I currently live in a council estate, so how would I know what the people from the "better" estates say about us.

Beastie 05-12-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2736377)
Are you actually that oblivious?

Oh and for the record I never said there was anything wrong with it, just based on what other people think about it.


I think it is a good question to start off a debate Tom but some people get all defensive and argumentitive over the subject.

InOne 05-12-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736380)
I am not relying on stereotypes, it all comes down to what the person actually does.

Yes but it's still Stereotypes really

Tom 05-12-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736382)
No, I'm not oblivious. I live in a council estate, so how would I know what the people from the "better" estates say about us.

Through the media and what other people who don't live on one say?

lily. 05-12-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736385)
I think it is a good question to start off a debate Tom but some people get all defensive and argumentitive over the subject.

Some people? Why don't you just say what's on your mind? You think I'm being defensive and argumentative.

Ok, lets make a thread about black people and how there's a stigma that they are all thieving criminal bastards.

Then see who gets defensive.

You're *****ing offensive love.

lily. 05-12-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2736387)
Through the media and what other people who don't live on one say?


Are you actually kidding me with this ****. You are so far up your own arse Tom. I always knew you were a bit uppity, but this is taking it to a whole other level.

Beastie 05-12-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2736386)
Yes but it's still Stereotypes really

Yeah but I see it from various points of view. I KNOW quite a few people who live in council houses work very hard to pay for their families, etc, but there are people who spend all their benefits on weed or whatever but this is in the minority. If you are not in the "spend all your benefits on weed, etc," stereotype group then you should have no problem living in a council house.

lily. 05-12-2009 11:11 PM

Oh
My
God.


That post was right up there with.. "some of my best friends are gay".

InOne 05-12-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736400)
Yeah but I see it from various points of view. I KNOW quite a few people who live in council houses work very hard to pay for their families, etc, but there are people who spend all their benefits on weed or whatever but this is in the minority. If you are not in the "spend all your benefits on weed, etc," stereotype group then you should have no problem living in a council house.

Some don't live on council estates and sponge and smoke weed. All the little rich kids who live of mummy and daddy.

andyman 05-12-2009 11:12 PM

I want a council house, cheap rent n all..

Billy 05-12-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736400)
Yeah but I see it from various points of view. I KNOW quite a few people who live in council houses work very hard to pay for their families, etc, but there are people who spend all their benefits on weed or whatever but this is in the minority. If you are not in the "spend all your benefits on weed, etc," stereotype group then you should have no problem living in a council house.

Then why doesn't the thread say "would you illegally go on benefits if you had to" rather than making people who do live in council houses etc feel like they're worth less than people who live in eighteen bedroom houses with four bathrooms?

Tom 05-12-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736396)
Are you actually kidding me with this ****. You are so far up your own arse Tom. I always knew you were a bit uppity, but this is taking it to a whole other level.

Nah you've completely got the wrong end of the stick here

All I'm asking is with all the negativity around it, would you do it? I've not said there is anything wrong with it so don't accuse me of that.

Shaun 05-12-2009 11:13 PM

Agreed with InOne and lili really. People living off rich mummies and daddies are worse people than people in council housing - as one is a lifestyle choice, the other is not necessarily.

We all know there ARE spongers, but that's sensationalised by the press. Very few do in reality. What about people on waiting lists for the housing?

Beastie 05-12-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2736404)
Some don't live on council estates and sponge and smoke weed. All the little rich kids who live of mummy and daddy.

Yes I know.. that is why I said the ones who sponge off council estates and smoke weed are in the MINORITY. I live at home but I pay for EVERYTHING myself. I pay my mum and dad board each month and we are NOT rich.

lily. 05-12-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy (Post 2736410)
Then why doesn't the thread say "would you illegally go on benefits if you had to" rather than making people who do live in council houses etc feel like they're worth less than people who live in eighteen bedroom houses with four bathrooms?


Thank you Billy. It seems you have taken this in much the same way as I have. Could it be something to do with the fact that we live in council housing and aren't lowlifes?

Billy 05-12-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736420)
Thank you Billy. It seems you have taken this in much the same way as I have. Could it be something to do with the fact that we live in council housing and aren't lowlifes?

It may be!

MrGaryy 05-12-2009 11:18 PM

u's r all durty schemiez. xo

lily. 05-12-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 2736434)
u's r all durty schemiez. xo

Considering this Gary..



єℓℓє says:
*i'm a schemey
G || if you could only see; says:
*what's a schemey
єℓℓє says:
*someone who was raised on a council estate.
*council housing schemes.
*as they are known here.
*hence schemey





You can't insult me with it now since you asked me what it meant.. <3

Stephanie 05-12-2009 11:21 PM

if some people didn't spend their benefits on shite and laze around all day in their council houses when they could be working (not including elderly people, or people who can't work or are trying to get a job but can't) then there wouldn't be this stigma attached to living in them, and imo there isn't anything wrong with it and alot of the people who live in council houses do work, and don't abuse their rights to benefits but the minority do.

Tom 05-12-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736420)
Thank you Billy. It seems you have taken this in much the same way as I have. Could it be something to do with the fact that we live in council housing and aren't lowlifes?

and I think you've completely taken it the wrong way. If you're not oblivious then you'd know about the stigma attached to it. And if thats what you're trying to prove otherwise to those who don't know, then maybe the best way isn't to be so touchy and accuse people of things that haven't even been said.

lily. 05-12-2009 11:24 PM

Oh just **** off.. I'm sick of you now..

Tom 05-12-2009 11:24 PM

Yet funny how you've said NOTHING to those who didn't vote yes :rolleyes:

Beastie 05-12-2009 11:27 PM

I wouldn't be defensive or argumentive if there was a thread about "what do you think of people who still live with mummy and daddy" :joker:

InOne 05-12-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736464)
I wouldn't be defensive or argumentive if there was a thread about "what do you think of people who still live with mummy and daddy" :joker:

It's not about 'living with mummy and daddy', it's the ones who sponge and that are as bad as those who live on a council estate, what kind of house you live in makes no difference to the person you are.


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