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Claymores 12-02-2010 06:42 PM

Why do TIBB bother with this when average age is 14?
 
Just for hits to prove to sponsors?

A few oldies to chat about politics or so?

Sorry - I detect average age of TIBB (honest is 14) - not agree? many are 12 lying so you're speaking to kids.

As evidence I use the the popularity of Sov then Janice to win which was a kiddies thing and gamblers loved it as just laid £000s and got drunk on TIBB


The kids are fun but noting to do with realistic BB. I like the funny kids.

PaulyJ 12-02-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2977270)
What a load of bull! You really don't get it - do you? I can't speak for others - but I don't want to be a man, quite happy being a woman thanks! I just want freedom of choice! What right does any man or woman have to tell another what they can and can't do - based on their sex!

For examle, there was a time when women couldn't be doctors - women have more than proved their abilty to be just as good as, and sometimes better than men! Most of these things have bugger all to do with abilty - just discrimination!

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...n_1398386c.jpg

That Woman is
A. Not presenting a physical threat to anyone other than a pissed up migit.
B. In a confrontation with her Male partner, against a group of rowdy louts is a liability to him, he will have to baby sit her, because it is apparent that she could not pull her weight. that is all i am saying.

Women on lower pay for the same job, i would agree is descrimination. Women not reaching the upper eschelons of business fair enough.

But Women in the Front lines of the Police, Army, and Fire Service is PC gone bonkers

Enid 12-02-2010 07:09 PM

She is just some woman throwing out some statistics at us.

All I know is, there are man-hating "feminists" and then true feminists. You cannot be a man-hater and feminist at the same time. It's just.. impossible. These women are called female supremacists, and it's just as bad as racial supremacy and chauvinism. It's unnecessary ignorance and intolerance.

Shasown 12-02-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2977413)
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...n_1398386c.jpg

That Woman is
A. Not presenting a physical threat to anyone other than a pissed up migit.
B. In a confrontation with her Male partner, against a group of rowdy louts is a liability to him, he will have to baby sit her, because it is apparent that she could not pull her weight. that is all i am saying.

Women on lower pay for the same job, i would agree is descrimination. Women not reaching the upper eschelons of business fair enough.

But Women in the Front lines of the Police, Army, and Fire Service is PC gone bonkers

Women wont be allowed to serve on the front line of the Army, they can carry weapons in self defence and get right in amongst it, as medics or supporting arms. They wont be allowed to fly modern combat aircraft in the RAF due to their bodies being less capable than men to cope with the stresses of high speed flight.

They are allowed in the Fire and Police Services because they can pass the required physical test. In the forces the physical tests still have two different sets of pass requirements for male and female, on shuttle runs for example the men have to run for a few levels Women can pass at about a fast walk. Mind, they do still get the same money as men of the same rank and trade.

In the area of domestic abuse, a women claims a man hits her, he gets lifted. If and it does happen a man is the victim, in a lot of areas he is told to man up. Or its ignored either way its not pursued with the same vigour as it would be if the perpertrator was a man.

So yes life is unfair, there is not equality between the sexes. ,aybe one day there will be. But dont think its only women who receive discrimination.

Tom4784 13-02-2010 02:41 AM

I thought she had some good points and I agree with her really, I fully believe in equal rights but if the work based stats she said were true then it's a fair point. If both Genders work the same amount of hours at the same job then they should get paid equally obviously and if anyone works less then it's only fair to those that work longer hours to get paid more and I'd say the same if the tables are reversed.

I'd like to believe her point about Women choosing family or career is overly pessimistic as I believe both women and men can juggle both.

andyman 13-02-2010 02:57 AM

.. Miss W just wants one up against the evil men..

andyman 13-02-2010 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2977535)
She is just some woman throwing out some statistics at us.

All I know is, there are man-hating "feminists" and then true feminists. You cannot be a man-hater and feminist at the same time. It's just.. impossible. These women are called female supremacists, and it's just as bad as racial supremacy and chauvinism. It's unnecessary ignorance and intolerance.

"True feminist".. ?

Claymores 13-02-2010 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2979930)
I'd like to believe her point about Women choosing family or career is overly pessimistic as I believe both women and men can juggle both.

I think that is just naiive and what employers recognise and build-nto the unsaid wage/employment dscrimination which just realistically reflects how society works (like it or not)

It still is the notional that male goes out and works, female work is secondary in relationship.

The couples I know where both work, still the wife has to put in more hours at home caring so the woman's career suffers

The females I know who have have house husbands are because they recognise the female has a far huger earning potential in a professional career.

The 2 profesionals without kids are interesting - these relationships tend to end as too much disposable cash and want to do their own things (my theory is that males and females not inherantly compatible without being tied to kids! and not too much in common the different genders except shag)

I'm in 3rd group as never wanted sprogs.

Claymores 13-02-2010 03:22 AM

It's just common/financial sense

WOMBAI 13-02-2010 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyman (Post 2979940)
.. Miss W just wants one up against the evil men..

You are just an idiot!

WOMBAI 13-02-2010 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=It still is the notional that male goes out and works, female work is secondary in relationship.[/QUOTE]


That usually only applies in working class families - where poorly educated men can earn more than poorly educated women.

In well educated professional couples where both have high earning potential - that is much less the case!

InOne 13-02-2010 07:12 PM

What are your views WOMBAI, are all the girls points invalid to you? You never told me your opinion?

BB_Eye 14-02-2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2976963)
Let me see - a young girl in her early twenties, no children, no real education on the subject - but somehow she is some kind of expert! She speaks as if women have children on their own - and the fathers have no responsibilities and no input into their care. Excuse me if I don't take her opinion too seriously! :hugesmile:

Do you have some issues with equal rights Inone - which is all feminisim means! I believe in equal rights - nothing more nothing less! Those that don't are the ones with issues!

Lol, this reminds me of the sorts of ad-hominem passive aggressive arguments you get from hysterical mothers who snap "DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN??? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE? YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE AND EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG!!!".

Also, if we're splitting hairs here, a person who believes in equal rights for women and that they have already been won is a post-feminist.

BB_Eye 14-02-2010 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2977413)
That Woman is
A. Not presenting a physical threat to anyone other than a pissed up migit.
B. In a confrontation with her Male partner, against a group of rowdy louts is a liability to him, he will have to baby sit her, because it is apparent that she could not pull her weight. that is all i am saying.

Women on lower pay for the same job, i would agree is descrimination. Women not reaching the upper eschelons of business fair enough.

But Women in the Front lines of the Police, Army, and Fire Service is PC gone bonkers

I'm grateful you've drawn this arbitrary boundary just so women know where they stand with you, but can I ask why?

WOMBAI 14-02-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 2983346)
Lol, this reminds me of the sorts of ad-hominem passive aggressive arguments you get from hysterical mothers who snap "DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN??? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE? YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE AND EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG!!!".

Also, if we're splitting hairs here, a person who believes in equal rights for women and that they have already been won is a post-feminist.

Typical - an attempt to undermine a woman's opinion - with the 'hysterical' label! :sleep:

Feminist = Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.

Do you have an issue with that?

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2976963)
Let me see - a young girl in her early twenties, no children, no real education on the subject - but somehow she is some kind of expert! She speaks as if women have children on their own - and the fathers have no responsibilities and no input into their care. Excuse me if I don't take her opinion too seriously! :hugesmile:

Do you have some issues with equal rights Inone - which is all feminisim means! I believe in equal rights - nothing more nothing less! Those that don't are the ones with issues!

bollocks does it mean equal rights, it means a load of jealous man haters wot dont shave either that or money grabbing slags :joker: i wonder which group u fit in wombat:joker:

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2976963)
Let me see - a young girl in her early twenties, no children, no real education on the subject - but somehow she is some kind of expert! She speaks as if women have children on their own - and the fathers have no responsibilities and no input into their care. Excuse me if I don't take her opinion too seriously! :hugesmile:

Do you have some issues with equal rights Inone - which is all feminisim means! I believe in equal rights - nothing more nothing less! Those that don't are the ones with issues!

women have a choice whether to have a baby or get rid of it, the man obviously has no say in this, u trying 2 say certain gals dont trap a man wiv a baby?

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 2977245)
Womens Rights

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...80_912803a.jpg


They can not hold there Drinks well enough

...LOL wombat wont like that 1:joker:

WOMBAI 14-02-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 2984679)
women have a choice whether to have a baby or get rid of it, the man obviously has no say in this, u trying 2 say certain gals dont trap a man wiv a baby?

A man can only be 'trapped' as you put it - if he is stupid enough to allow himself to be! If he doesn't take his own precautions - then more fool him - and he is just as responsible for the consequences!

WOMBAI 14-02-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 2984678)
bollocks does it mean equal rights, it means a load of jealous man haters wot dont shave either that or money grabbing slags :joker: i wonder which group u fit in wombat:joker:

Or a load of jealous woman haters - who have no luck with the ladies - and/or are too thick to make proper conversation and to type proper English - I wonder which group you fit cupid! :joker:

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2984692)
A man can only be 'trapped' as you put it - if he is stupid enough to allow himself to be! If he doesn't take his own precautions - then more fool him - and he is just as responsible for the consequences!

no thats BULL****, 2 start with it gals can lie and say there on the pill i no i had a couple lucky escapes with slags like that

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2984699)
Or a load of jealous woman haters - who have no luck with the ladies - and/or are too thick to make proper conversation and to type proper English - I wonder which group you fit cupid! :joker:

who sed am a women hater darling am far from it, shame that thers not many decent gals out there these days

WOMBAI 14-02-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 2984705)
no thats BULL****, 2 start with it gals can lie and say there on the pill i no i had a couple lucky escapes with slags like that

You really are lacking in the grey matter department aren't you - just as women are told not to trust men who say they will 'take care of things' - men should not trust women who say they are on the pill - and insist on using a condom. Simple! What is complicated to understand about that?

WOMBAI 14-02-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 2984711)
who sed am a women hater darling am far from it, shame that thers not many decent gals out there these days

Oh darling - you clearly don't deserve the decent type! :hugesmile:

cupid stunt 14-02-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2984712)
You really are lacking in the grey matter department aren't you - just as women are told not to trust men who say they will 'take care of things' - men should not trust women who say they are on the pill - and insist on using a condom. Simple! What is complicated to understand about that?

ye ur not wrong there av learnt me lesson, trouble is shaggin wi a condom is ***** crap compared 2 bareback:joker:


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