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Beastie 18-04-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3173380)
The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

Yeah suppose your right. Depending what happened in the CBB series dictates how popular the summer BB will be! Therefore with another Sunday night launch , a good mix of interesting, entertaining, intelligent (and eccentric) housemates then hopefully quite a few people will be drawn in. There needs to be a good launch night twist too!

I think putting ex BB housemates in will be the last nail in the coffin for BB. A BIG mistake. I hope for the sake of the show, it doesn't happen. Yes they can pop in to do a task, pop on BBLB and BBBM but in no way hozay of being a bb11 housemate and eligible to win the 100 thousand pound cheque.

Tom4784 18-04-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3173383)
It would do better on other channels imo.

Not many people watch channel 4 as it is, bbc 1 bbc 2 and itv have much bigger audiences..

They'd laugh at the ratings BB gets though. None of the major channels would touch it.

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:49 PM

Awww who is the 30stone cutie?

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3173395)
They'd laugh at the ratings BB gets though. None of the major channels would touch it.

ROFL? Babes, don't ever venture into tv production.. you wouldn't do well :P

Clueless babe, clueless :P

Beastie 18-04-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173406)
Awww who is the 30stone cutie?

The one and only Big Ben!

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3173408)
The one and only Big Ben!

A regular here or something? I've never seen him!

Tom4784 18-04-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173407)
ROFL? Babes, don't ever venture into tv production.. you wouldn't do well :P

Clueless babe, clueless :P

You must be deluded to think that ITV or BBC would buy the rights to BB if all it can manage is 2-3 million a show. If I remember correctly BBC1 and ITV average 4-5 million most nights (and that's if something like BGT,XF and the football isn't on). They just wouldn't donate the time or resources to those viewer figures. In the case of ITV it's summer schedules are already full up with stuff like BGT and the start of X-Factor which are already safe and solid bets for the channel.

Also when you consider that shows like The Bill have been cancelled for falling under 4 million viewers, it just makes it impossible for BB to be picked up.

Clueless Babe, Clueless.

Harry! 18-04-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3173380)
The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

Patrick there was great people in BB8 and the series was good. It was just a 'safe' series after the infamous CBB5.

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3173445)
You must be deluded to think that ITV or BBC would buy the rights to BB if all it can manage is 2-3 million a show. If I remember correctly BBC1 and ITV average 4-5 million most nights (and that's if something like BGT,XF and the football isn't on). They just wouldn't donate the time or resources to those viewer figures. In the case of ITV it's summer schedules are already full up with stuff like BGT and the start of X-Factor which are already safe and solid bets for the channel.

Also when you consider that shows like The Bill have been cancelled for falling under 4 million viewers, it just mades it impossible for BB to be picked up.

Clueless Babe, Clueless.

I didn't say that exactly... I was talking about a show's ratings. You're probably quite right in saying they wouldn't touch BB but thats not only down to ratings, its down to the nature of the show and the stigma it carries.

Period production rules do not apply to regular production. I don't mean to be rude but you're only speculating not speaking in facts(albeit with logic, I can see why you think the way you do) I know what I know because Daddy works in television.

He's already told me his channel won't be picking it up and gave me reasons why, I won't lie and say ratings aren't an issue but thats really only a microdot in the grand scheme of their decision.

So clueless? Nah. I only deal in facts, that way my statements are always beyond reproach. Silly baba.

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 08:14 PM

Don't bother debating if you can't deal in facts.

Patrick 18-04-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Recylopse (Post 3173460)
Patrick there was great people in BB8 and the series was good. It was just a 'safe' series after the infamous CBB5.

Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.

Beastie 18-04-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173420)
A regular here or something? I've never seen him!

Yep. Ben is a regular and a mod! :)

Beastie 18-04-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3173521)
Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.

Kara Louise was sweet. She should have been in the final.

Tom4784 18-04-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173485)
I didn't say that exactly... I was talking about a show's ratings. You're probably quite right in saying they wouldn't touch BB but thats not only down to ratings, its down to the nature of the show and the stigma it carries.

Period production rules do not apply to regular production. I don't mean to be rude but you're only speculating not speaking in facts(albeit with logic, I can see why you think the way you do) I know what I know because Daddy works in television.

He's already told me his channel won't be picking it up and gave me reasons why, I won't lie and say ratings aren't an issue but thats really only a microdot in the grand scheme of their decision.

So clueless? Nah. I only deal in facts, that way my statements are always beyond reproach. Silly baba.

I doubt ratings are only a 'microdot'. Ratings bring in advertisers and advertisers bring in the money. Simple as that. The only way I could see them doing BB is if they change the format to the BBUS style, that way it's not on nightly and it doesn't impact the schedules as much. But even then why go to the bother when BBC and ITV already have franchises that already get millions more viewers without the risk.

I know the differences between Regular and period production, but it doesn't change anything really. Neither channel has the time to show it as both has more successful series and it's just not worth the risk.

The stigma's a good point especially with BBC, but the thing is failing shows just don't get saved. With the exception of Family Guy I don't think anything has been recommisioned after it's been cancelled in the past ten years. It MIGHT come back in a few years time like how some 80's/90's shows have been brought back recently (Krypton Factor, V, Survivors etc).

I can't see BB coming back for a number of years though and even then I can see it being a different beast to how we know it now. Speculation is ALL we have, I never present my opinion as fact but to me it doesn't make much sense for ITV or BBC to take it on when they've got stacks of better performing shows already.

keithafc 18-04-2010 10:21 PM

What needs to happen to Big Brother is simple.

Get this series out of the way, make it a great series with fantastic house mates and INTERESTING house mates. Hope the ratings are very good and then just leave the show.

Wait 2-3 years and then see the demand for it. At the end of the day, what will JUDGE how good BB is and how important it is for channel 4 is when they don't have it on TV and then we will see. Will they get good ratings during the summer? Will the channel suffer? Will people stop watching channel 4 because of the reason to axe BB?

These are all important questions which can't be answered now.

What do i think? I think they will make a HUGE mistake in axeing it. Trust me when i say this, Channel 4 is a **** channel without BB being on in the summer. What will they have to show during the summer months without it? They haven't thought of this.

keithafc 18-04-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3173521)
Yeah thats what I mean, the people arent bad and Samanda,Ziggy and Brian ammused me but Big Brother himself and the public didnt give it attention because of what happened before like you said.

Had CBB5 been diffrent, BB8 would of got more attention, then BB9 and followed by BB10 and BB wouldnt be in the position it is now.

The whole racist row has really put a dent into BB. Shilpa, Jade and so on, it was a complete mess and it went too far.

Too many people complained over what really was petty stuff. The whole thing seemed to stem from the actual argument between Jade and Shilpa but some of the most nasty remarks actually came from Jo and Daniele.

Stephanie 18-04-2010 11:09 PM

no :(

Stephanie 18-04-2010 11:17 PM

i mean, yeah deffo :D

Zippy 19-04-2010 12:14 AM

No, yeah, no, but, yeah but...

It can survive but will never be the big force it once was. The media dont take much interest in it anymore. I dont see that improving because the whole notion of being a BB contestant has now become a laughing stock, a sign of desperation...the ultimate Z-lister.

No way back from that. But it could plod along and die a very slow death if picked up elsewhere.

Glenn. 19-04-2010 12:19 AM

Another channel wouldnt be able to give it the scheduled time it needs. We're talking about a daily hour show, something most channels havent got the space for.
I dont think we are going to see BB on another channel in the near future.

Niamh. 20-04-2010 10:23 AM

I think changing it to another channel and giving it a re vamp would work wonders for it

Niamh. 20-04-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 3174283)
Another channel wouldnt be able to give it the scheduled time it needs. We're talking about a daily hour show, something most channels havent got the space for.
I dont think we are going to see BB on another channel in the near future.

ITV 2 could do that


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