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Jack_ 07-05-2010 06:03 PM

Have you always been a Conservative voter, arista?

Electoral reform + new election, but I'll definitely settle for a Lib/Con coalition, provided, at the very least, a referendum on electoral reform is granted.

Shaun 07-05-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215679)
Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority

http://phoenixdiversions.files.wordp...meron_fail.jpg

I'd like to know in what kind of world gaining 97 seats is deemed a failure?

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3215688)
I'd like to know in what kind of world gaining 97 seats is deemed a failure?

The part where they failed to get a majority, therefore not becoming the new leaders of the United Kingdom

arista 07-05-2010 06:07 PM

"Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority"

But they Got the Most Seats.


New Labour Lost as they lost so many seats.

Shaun 07-05-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215692)
The part where they failed to get a majority, therefore not becoming the new leaders of the United Kingdom

By 20 seats...mmkay then.

arista 07-05-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215692)
The part where they failed to get a majority, therefore not becoming the new leaders of the United Kingdom


Sure but only 20 seats more needed
And Nick is Helping there.


So they Will be Bigger than any other Party after this Deal.

Vicky. 07-05-2010 06:09 PM

Lib/Lab.

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3215693)
"Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority"

But they Got the Most Seats.


New Labour Lost as they lost so many seats.

Yeah, but they didnt get the majority of seats, they fell short of getting the amount of seats needed, hence them not leading the country

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3215695)
By 20 seats...mmkay then.

Oh well dammit, I must be wrong, the Tories must have won and Mr. Cameron is in Downing Street right now serving the country as Prime Minister, sorry for that mistake there!

arista 07-05-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215700)
Yeah, but they didnt get the majority of seats, they fell short of getting the amount of seats needed, hence them not leading the country


Yes but that is to be Changed under a Nick and David Deal.


New Labour Fell Well Short.

arista 07-05-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215702)
Oh well dammit, I must be wrong, the Tories must have won and Mr. Cameron is in Downing Street right now serving the country as Prime Minister, sorry for that mistake there!



He will be soon


Due to Talks with Nick.

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3215705)
Yes but that is to be Changed under a Nick and David Deal.


New Labour Fell Well Short.

Yes, it will be decided in a back room, so much for democracy

arista 07-05-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215709)
Yes, it will be decided in a back room, so much for democracy



yes but better than
New Labour.

Shaun 07-05-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215702)
Oh well dammit, I must be wrong, the Tories must have won and Mr. Cameron is in Downing Street right now serving the country as Prime Minister, sorry for that mistake there!

Remind me to quote that in a week.

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 06:18 PM

I will, but what does that prove? Nothing really, since they technically lost, note the word technically, and not the world literally

Angus 07-05-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3215698)
Lib/Lab.

Lib/Lab = 315 seats (still not enough for an overall majority so what assortment of "other" parties would want to get in bed with Brown & Co?)
Lib/Con = 363 seats - overall majority

arista 07-05-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3215698)
Lib/Lab.


Vicky not enough seats,
so No such Pact.

arista 07-05-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3215720)
Lib/Lab = 315 seats (still not enough for an overall majority so what assortment of "other" parties would want to get in bed with Brown & Co?)
Lib/Con = 363 seats - overall majority




Bang On Right Angus

Angus 07-05-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3215662)
Funny how I got told off for 'END OF' yesterday. That isn't true anyway, they could fill the extra seats with another minority party.


Since my conclusions are axiomatic "end of" is appropriate, whereas your attempting to end an argument when you were unable to provide any evidence for your views was inappropriate.

As for filling the extra seats with another minority party, you need to be talking in plural here, since it would take at least two other parties to get up to an overall majority. How would that work in practice, four (maybe more) different parties trying to get through legislation and govern the country? Dream on.

Shasown 07-05-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3215753)
Since my conclusions are axiomatic "end of" is appropriate, whereas your attempting to end an argument when you were unable to provide any evidence for your views was inappropriate.

As for filling the extra seats with another minority party, you need to be talking in plural here, since it would take at least two other parties to get up to an overall majority. How would that work in practice, four (maybe more) different parties trying to get through legislation and govern the country? Dream on.

The other minor little problem is that sort of coalition only needs one defeat in the House of Commons, or a vote of no confidence going against the government and they are out, Cameron then gets the keys to 10 Downing Street, Gordon gets evicted.

Imagine trying to make sure the policies you want to pass are so watered down and filled with amendments to suit all the parties in your coalition. Upset one side and its bye bye.

ange7 08-05-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3215688)
I'd like to know in what kind of world gaining 97 seats is deemed a failure?

easy...a world where you need 326 seats to claim victory.

Mystic Mock 08-05-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 3214850)
And how exactly do you know that?

They could strike a deal, get a few lib dem mps into the cabinet and some of LibDems ideas used. Its not entirely possible, and far more possible then a Con-Lib coalition

well labour have done crap with england and the rest of britain except scotland no offence.

and lib dems on what ive heard only care about the students so i think liberal torries work better because that can be lib dems policies with other stuff and concervatives have law,imagration and nhs.

and then this country will be fine.

Mystic Mock 08-05-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 3214876)
Yes but Brown, like it or not, is in his right to try and form a government first because Cameron failed to win a majority.

so did brown only cameron should choose who he reforms with anyway his party got the majority vote.

Mystic Mock 08-05-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3215679)
Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority

http://phoenixdiversions.files.wordp...meron_fail.jpg

still got more than brown comfortably.

Scarlett. 08-05-2010 02:45 PM

Like I said, he TECHNICALLY lost, that's different from the literally saying "Cameron lost"


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