Totally agree with you on that Rob, I didn't like him right from the second he started laughing, must've been very un nerving for the contestants who went in after him, I wouldn't like someone laughing like a maniac as soon as I walked through the doors! Get him out!

Maybe you have something wrong with you here. Like an inability to accept massive similarities between things in life because you're emotionally invested in one side of the same coin? And thanks for tacit admission that priests dont marry or have families, which is equally as different and unbiblical as anything David and his group could come up with.

no

its you

It is a 'tacit admission' when I don't mention the one thing you did not get totally wrong. Interesting.

A lot of people don't know this but plenty of priests are from families and some even had families of their own before becoming priests and some do after they leave the priesthood.
Some are single men their entire lives like some men who never joined a priesthood.
It is hard to believe but plenty of people outside of priests actually stay single their whole lives.

Having said that and showing its 'normal' and 'typical' in life I would also point out it is definitely not 'unbiblical'.
They will often point to St. Paul who did mention his advantage in being single and felt bad for the others with families.
Now.. this is not saying it is 'mandatory' either but it is definitely not 'unbiblical'.
There are other examples and obviously Jesus remained single and that was typical of the OT prophets - many of whom were single men.

'unbiblical' (a strange word) but implies something for which there is no precedent or example or teaching for in the Bible.
David specializes in this!
The very point here is that David and his group believe they receive special knowledge from outside the Bible.
Even if there is teachings in the Bible encouraging 'sober-mindedness' they will believe they have received a special exception permitting them to be in drunken spirits.

But getting this a little bit more on topic I have to say this is something BB is obviously infamous for.
- people want a homosexual in the house? BB finds an absolutely flaming bitch to flounce around being a drama queen and boasting of 'cruising'.
- people want to see some black people and get the most outrageous and worst stereotypical street thug hustlers prone to violence and contempt.
- people want to know when some muslim youth will be included and get the worst possible example of a degenerate ex-muslim party fool.

All this does is show up what happened when people started demanding we see some Christian people in the mix.
Sure, we can do that - find a controversial fringe movement that is known to be condemned by the vast majority of Christians and cast their most annoying 'Minister'.

All I'm doing is calling it out.
I did this with the 'flaming gays' the 'thug blacks' and the 'not-muslim muslims'.

"I know you are but what am I" and a no true scotsman fallacy... This is why no one debates with theists, you annoy half and bore the other.

No one follows the Bible completely, so unless you want to attempt it stop deciding who's Christian and who isn't. And attempting is ridiculous in itself because there are verses that logically contradict. I've had this conversation 43,532 too many times. later :xyxwave:

I think your generalising there "most" people do not take reliogion as a joke, I would say it would be more so the uneducated who do this!!

Could you please rephrase this. Who is not taking reliogion as a joke?

You just pulled off the fallacy as you spoke. Woops!
They call this 'self-pwnage'.

I would also mention that there are people who claim to be Scotsmen who are not Scotsmen.
Really.

Sorry people who think religion is a joke! TOo many words sorry x

People on here stating most people think religion is a joke which is complete nonsense.

Yeah that was strange anyone would get that impression but then it could be the circles they hand around in and then the media they pay attention to.

Religion really is taken very seriously by a good solid part of the UK population although it definitely has declined over the last 100 years,
but,
then again some recent surveys show the more 'conservative' denominations (and we might associate those with 'seriousness') are seeing a decent rise in popularity.

Of course there are people like David who think its all a joke.

Now you have a gist of how the ethnic English feel via ALL the media outlets.

I most certainly do and did before this. It was just made all the more clear at that time.
They do nothing but confirm it every time out too.

Part of C4's licence to broadcast is to promote minority issue's and cultures. Christianity and the English are too big a culture for C4 to promote.

And that would be perfectly acceptable but they seem to have become confused and believe (as do far too many in UK media) that a way to 'promote minorities' is to them 'demote' and tear down 'majorities'.

The bizarre irony in all of this - tearing down and urinating on Christian Natives isn't for the benefit or enjoyment of any minorities watching as much as its for the satisfaction and alleviation of... .. yep, the rich white elitists types of people running and making fine livings from C4.

Exactly. To promote non whites over whites, foreigners over the English, gays over hetros, muslims over christians, thats discrimination.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Common Purpose have influence at Channel4.

El Proximo, for a man of God do you think you spend too much time watching BB, did you also know that your avatar pic is of a Japanese water demon?

Just saying like.

After reading this thread I am sure that nothing I say here will make you (ElProximo) change your stance on this matter however I would just like put my twopenneth in.

I dont believe Channel 4 are trying to damage the Chrisian faith by recruiting Dave for this show, I think they are looking for potential housemates with extreme personalities/views because they make BB "exciting". Personally I enjoyed the "social experiment" aspect but admit to being addicted to watching the "freak show" it has become.

When people are blaming religion for wars and you counter that argument with the assumption that it is land, you are right on one level but to be clear, most of the time it is to "cleanse" land from the oposing religious and cultural combatants. My case in point is Hitlers treatment of the Jews (not forgetting all the other victims of the "final solution") the war between serbia and croatia (christians vs muslim) and what is happening to Tibet at the moment is purely China's wish to eradicate Buddhism and vilify the Dalai Llama.

I am sure that even you cannot argue that the Spanish Inquisition was not a war waged on people due to their religious beliefs.

I dont say all war is based on religion but a great deal is and it is because of the way people are indoctinated from an early age to believe in a certain organised religion, which will have an oposition in any other religion or belief system. Anyone who is considered "other" is a target for hostility, despite most organised religions teaching love and respect for everyone (even if they dont prey to the same god as us) it very rarely happens in reality.

As for the celibacy debate, it was a pope in the 4th century who was worried that priests' families could possibly have a case for maintenance from the church, decided that from that date forward all priests would be celibate and used the fact that Christ was single (or so we are told) in order to validate that decision.

Sorry but have to admit I find those videos hilarious.'sniffing bible lines'?haha

Don't worry OP,anyone stupid enough to judge all Christians because of one man,is ridiculous anyway.Thats like saying Charley represents all black people,Marco represents all gay men,Shabazz represents all men.Doubt anyone will think that way.

Yeah most of us realize all Christians are in some way suffering from a delusion. Not just David.