well the only problem is that we're stuck with them for ages now I reckon cos they'll slip right under the radar

Not the BS line again..

BTW, did you see the link i added to the thread about JJ being the bookies fave once upon a time? :hugesmile:

Seeing for the live feed, steve dosent seem that bad of a guy know.

Quite a nice person really, thought he was going to be a arsehole, but im liking him at the moment.

I don't think he's an arsehole or Caoimhe and Ife for that matter, they're just boring

BS

All total bores ,but Ife and Keeva make come out of their shells if Scabby leaves,but I dont think Ben and pals will forget they were "The Addams failmy"

Oh dear. Talk about denial when presented with the facts.

You said Steves been the fave the whole time.

I proved you wrong by linking a bookies site which states JJ was.

You can now go back to sticking your head in the sand. :whistle:

:hugesmile:

I think you're spot on. Rachael, herself, is a prime example of this. Although JJ has been so awful to her she continues to say to people that she likes and fancies him. If she doesn't change this aspect of her personality I don't think she'll ever find Mr Right. By the way I'm not a Rachael fan

Mr. Right? She still fancies him because she can't see passed a persons appearance and even though he said horrible thing to her he's still good looking

Oh you are very wrong Mr Wong ,my head is not in the sand ,Steve has been fav from day one ,on one dodgy bookies JJ may have been fav for a day ,but he is not and never has been fav to win

I think this a problem that a lot of jj supporters have; "he's good looking so I'll just over-look and explain away the rest".

Yes I understand what you're saying. We're actually making the same point.

I think he's good looking but wouldn't fancy any man, however good looking he was if he spoke treated me that way. Rachael needs to grow up emotionally if she's going to find happiness in her life with the right person for her.

Er, I doubt you know what her past BFs look like so you can't be quick to judge. And he was actually decent to her for the first 4 days and then suddenly decided it would be more camera worthy to hate on her. Crazy.

And anybody would be bothered if a HM started hating on them like he's doing. It's not just coz she thinks every guy should fancy her. It's just basic feelings.

In my case it has nothing to do with his looks ,but he is lush ,its his straight talking i like

Judgemental rudeness more like. And he wasn't being honest for the first 4-5 days. Then just suddenly started bitching behind her back.

He only said it to her face coz he knew it would come out and was seen by the viewers. So much for honesty.

Yeah he honestly only shags ugly girls too. Im sure.

Well I can't speak for why other people like JJ but I can tell you that it is not the case for me. I could give you back the equally as insulting line "You're only jealous of him" but I won't because I'm sure you're opinions are much less shallow and trivial than that. It would be nice if you could give me the same courtesy.

I know right? That is such a line :hugesmile:

Who pissed in your cornflakes Zippy???

You seem very miserable today :conf:

I know she should be bothered I just think she's bothered at the wrong thing. She seems to me to be more bothered that he doesn't like her than why he doesn't like her.

Apologies then, I mis understood your post:hugesmile:

You have every right to think what you choose to ,but I do not agree with you ,

Hi, sorry I offended you :), I know a lot of people don't like him for his looks, or at least -not just- his looks, it's just that I've read so many posts here and on the C4 BB11 boards saying that he's good looking and that people (mostly women I have to say) don't think he's in the wrong for his treatment of Racheal, that I get the impression that his looks are what people think count and not the way he treates people.

john is as fake as rachael and even worse.

yes, people do seem to confuse his rude aggression towards women as honesty.

i repeat. john is everything rachael represents and even worse!

john makes more faces when people talk, he bitches with his best pal govan 24/7.

i say very soon people will really dislike him, as his nasty sides come out.

I have no doubt that some women do like him for this reason alone (Ironically they're the types that he says he can't stand) But I'm sure most HMs have people liking them for equally stupid reasons. Just don't tar us all withe the one brush!

Bang On Right.