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stonedape 06-07-2010 08:38 AM

It's possible he's a mole, but to act with a different personality/attitude/accent 24/7 for months takes crazy endurance/acting skill I just don't see Ben being capable of. It would be a beautiful con, but it seems like a stretch.

vesavius 06-07-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3452898)
It's possible he's a mole, but to act with a different personality/attitude/accent 24/7 for months takes crazy endurance/acting skill I just don't see Ben being capable of. It would be a beautiful con, but it seems like a stretch.

The point is that the Ben you think you know maybe isnt Ben at all... who knows what he is capable of ;)


As for maintaining the act... well, going 'undercover' wouldnt be that hard. He isnt faking his accent, and the personality would only be an exaggeration, not a creation, so easy to keep up.

All he would really be doing is constantly playing dumb (which people do all the time) and following BBs directions. Easy really?

stonedape 06-07-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 3452920)
The point is that the Ben you think you know maybe isnt Ben at all... who knows what he is capable of ;)


As for maintaining the act... well, going 'undercover' wouldnt be that hard. He isnt faking his accent, and the personality would only be an exaggeration, not a creation, so easy to keep up.

All he would really be doing is constantly playing dumb (which people do all the time) and following BBs directions. Easy really?

Not at all. Try doing it for an hour, you'll have a headache. I don't think he's capable.

vesavius 06-07-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3452923)
Not at all. Try doing it for an hour, you'll have a headache. I don't think he's capable.

I know people that exaggerate their real personalities all their lives ;)


Even with these aside though, there are many many cases of people living undercover, in far more invented personalities, then what Ben would have been doing for just a month.

stonedape 06-07-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 3452927)
I know people that exaggerate their real personalities all their lives ;)


There are many many cases of people living undercover, in far more invented personalities, then what Ben would have been doing for just a month.


Living undercover and exaggerating in public are easy, everyone does it to an extent...this is constant social contact close to 24/7. It's exhausting, and Ben's type of personality would be difficult to fake that long, it's very specific. I'm not saying it's impossible, just highly improbable.

Tamtam 06-07-2010 11:06 AM

The idea is very intriguing... I was watching this in bed last night and while I am not convinced or anything, some of Ben's reactions and body ticks were strange, as was his obvious move to change the subject. This morning he started talking about it again, reaffirming that he isnt a actor, which maybe could be interpretated as trying too hard to insist he isnt.

I honestly think it would be possible for a housemate to go 'undercover' in there... it's not like he would be having to create a whole personality or anything... he could very much just have been put in there to just bring disharmony and friction to the group, while messing up their tasks.

I think it's exactly the sense of humour of the BB guys to put a real mole in and cover it with a fake mole who wore a sign saying I am a mole! and the last series would be the time they would most do it...

I wonder what his fans would say if he was!

vesavius 06-07-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamtam (Post 3453140)
The idea is very intriguing... I was watching this in bed last night and while I am not convinced or anything, some of Ben's reactions and body ticks were strange, as was his obvious move to change the subject. This morning he started talking about it again, reaffirming that he isnt a actor, which maybe could be interpretated as trying too hard to insist he isnt.

I think it's exactly the sense of humour of the BB guys to put a real mole in and cover it with a fake mole who wore a sign saying I am a mole! and the last series would be the time they would most do it..


yep me too, the more I watch the less silly the idea becomes :joker:

Julesuk 06-07-2010 02:16 PM

whats even a funnier tale is the fake mole befriending the real mole.

vesavius 06-07-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Julesuk (Post 3453757)
whats even a funnier tale is the fake mole befriending the real mole.

:joker::joker:

Orvakki 06-07-2010 03:39 PM

How long is it till week 6?

vesavius 06-07-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Orvakki (Post 3454599)
How long is it till week 6?


I think we are week 5 now?


The rumoured great reveal... wonder if it's anything or just that, a rumour.

Beso 06-07-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 3455047)
I think we are week 5 now?


The rumoured great reveal... wonder if it's anything or just that, a rumour.



Maybe it's davina getting her minge out!

vesavius 06-07-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by beso (Post 3455109)
Maybe it's davina getting her minge out!

Only, maybe, if 'her minge' is a euphemism for 'Ben' ;)




More seriously though (though not totally seriously obviously...)...

Noticed there wasnt any coverage of the whole 'actor' conversation at ALL in the HL, even though Ben being funny (actually the funniest he has been all series if I am honest) is usually shoe horned into the show no matter what. The whole conversation, from all, was hilarious tbh.

There is a reason for everything they do and don't put in this show... if they don't, and it has obvious entertainment value as this did, it is normally hacked out in order to protect something.



Love the speculation personally... :D

vesavius 13-07-2010 01:17 AM

Once again the HMs are talking about the week 6 secret that is rumoured and how they think there is an actor in there with them.


Week 6...


The HMs are all called together and told to name the real mole in the house (after the original double bluff), with the mole receiving half the prize fund if they fail to pick him out. Whichever HM is named as the mole though, real or not, has to leave the house.

The actor mole is Ben, but they will name Mario?

Possible? :)

Mr XcX 13-07-2010 01:31 AM

Ben is FAKE!!!
Bitchy Weasel Toad IMO

Angus 13-07-2010 08:31 AM

What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

vesavius 13-07-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3487780)
What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

oh calm down, it's just fun speculation based on a conversation the HMs had.

No need to get bent out of shape :rolleyes:

vesavius 13-07-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3487780)
What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

oh, btw, if getting evicted had been one of the mole's fail conditions, meaning he indeed would have been removed from the house if the vote had gone against him, then there would be no right to cry foul or for a refund.

There would have been no financial deception.

It would have though explained all the camera time, kind edits, and solo tasks that Ben received for ages, and indeed right after when they started talking about it why he was allowed to melt into the background.


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